First loss... (Knew it but still went ahead)

[RX-7 Steve]

Originally Posted by TatII

also the FD's interior is a POS. lol they try to make the car soo light that they use as little screws as possible with the most hollowed out pieces of plastic. yea the leather is okay, but the pastic triming around the gauage clusters always breaks and comes apart, the plast triming around the tranny tunnel also comes apart. the hand gripe by where the door latch is on the inside always cracks.

What you are talking about, bro? Here's a shot of my RX-7's interior, and my car has over 100K miles; all the interior materials are flawless and there's no simulated leather or wood either.:

[TatII]

when people take photos you can't tell the interior is falling apart becasue you can't phyiscally be there to lift the panels apart.

when my friend was going car shopping, all the interior looks great in photos, and looked fine in person until i actually touch it. then it starts moving around and you can easily lift the pieces off the base with no effort cause nothing is held on by anything anymore.

i'm not saying that yours is falling apart, but i've seen plenty of FD's with busted up interiors, and i ask those owners and they know of even more FD guys with busted up interior.

the most common thing that breaks on any FD like 95% are the plastic pieces where you grip to close the door by the door latch. that plastic will always crank and leave a nice hole there.

also why is it that most FD's i know when you close the door, it makes a clunking sound?

[TatII]

also i love hte FD's probrably the top 5 most beautiful cars to ever come out of japan. but its too uncompromised therefore lacking in alot of subjective departments.

if i was to get a FD, it would definitly have to have a LS1 in there.

[RX-7 Steve]

1.) Well, I personally don't know too many FD-owners, but I did see alot of FD's in person when shopping for mine. Sure, I have heard of the problems you speak of, much like I heard about all the RX-7 horror-stories when doing my research of the car. Still, none of the 3rd-gen RX-7's that I inspected and scrutenized had any of those problems, and I wasn't even looking and the really expensive, museum-quality vehicles. I mean, if you are shopping in the bargain price-range or referring to car that is/was abused, then there will always be flaws, no matter what car you're looking at.

2.) I dunno what kinda "clunking-sound" you refer to, but when I close my doors nothing appears to sound abnormal. I love FD doors! Everything from the unique and discreet door-handles, and the curves flowing into the bulgous rear-fenders. It's also one of the few non-Lamborghini door-designs that don't look stupid with "lambo-doors".

3.) "Too uncompromised"? The goal of creating an true and uncompromised sportscar is what gave birth to the FD3S.

4.) LS1's are great engines. My uncle wants me to put one in mine, but I consider such acts heresy. Rotary engines are so unique; why make a unique car like every other car on the road? Besides, 4-rotor 26B dominates LS1!!!

[TatII]

well atleast we're on the same page then.

most of the FD's that we saw was in the 15K range which is the fair price range. but most of them were in horrible condition.

the best FD that i ever saw was owned by a friend of a friend who both are in rx-7club.com he is the second owner of his FD and it was garage kept in nyc for years. the car only had 20K miles on it. it was mint. that one i must say is a beauty and the interior was flawless.

thats why when i said 9 out of 10 FD's are in horrible condition. that 1 FD that wasn't belonged to that guy.

and i tought the 26B wasn't even a product engine, but some custom beast.

[RX-7 Steve]

Originally Posted by TatII

well atleast we're on the same page then.

most of the FD's that we saw was in the 15K range which is the fair price range. but most of them were in horrible condition.

the best FD that i ever saw was owned by a friend of a friend who both are in rx-7club.com he is the second owner of his FD and it was garage kept in nyc for years. the car only had 20K miles on it. it was mint. that one i must say is a beauty and the interior was flawless.

thats why when i said 9 out of 10 FD's are in horrible condition. that 1 FD that wasn't belonged to that guy.

and i tought the 26B wasn't even a product engine, but some custom beast.

Yeah, the 26B wasn't a production engine; it was the race-engine that Mazda used to utterly dominate LeMans with.

It's a shame that you have encountered so many FD's in such poor condition. Still, I think the "9-10" call is a bit unfair; there are 2 types of RX-7 owners (the racer, and the enthusiast) and the condition of the car depends on which type owned/owns it.

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by TatII

also the FD's interior is a POS. lol they try to make the car soo light that they use as little screws as possible with the most hollowed out pieces of plastic. yea the leather is okay, but the pastic triming around the gauage clusters always breaks and comes apart, the plast triming around the tranny tunnel also comes apart. the hand gripe by where the door latch is on the inside always cracks.

The door latch cracks because of the pin an the rugged ride of the FD because of it's stiff suspension. The leather is not a low end leather if you actaully look it. I have yet to see the plastic trim on an Fd's gauge cluster "crack" your friend must have hit it with something or they bought a salvage lol. I have driven plenty of Fd's an none have had cracks on the gauge cluster. The only thing that Fd's are prone to is the rear bins being damaged due to some peoples neglegence. I have yet to see an Fd with the center section of the tranny cover come apart. I know what your talking about as far as the hand grip on the passengers side but thats because of peoples own reclessness an neglect.

Originally Posted by TatII

yeah the FD is really refined and well built. hahah 9 out of 10 FD's i see has a beat up interior that is falling apart worse then a chinese made car. if i get to meet you, then you might be the 2nd FD that i've ever known to have a interior taht is actually still in one piece.

Shame then the Fd's you saw were abused alot. I have a feeling most of the people you see are very bent on speed an not enough care on the exterior an interior part of it.

Originally Posted by TatII

so you calling the STi's interior trash is kinda ironic since they're known to hold up waay better and is made out of better materials and actually i held together with more then 1 screw.

Better materials? LMao! Look at the back seats one peice cloth stiched into padding isn't better lol. There's alot more holding the Fd together then a couple of screws lol.

My interior

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by TatII

the most common thing that breaks on any FD like 95% are the plastic pieces where you grip to close the door by the door latch. that plastic will always crank and leave a nice hole there.

also why is it that most FD's i know when you close the door, it makes a clunking sound?

It's a tad bit annoying but the handles become lose I elimnated that by putting a washer on both sides of the "2" secrews that hold the door handles in place. The best way to alleviate the hinges cracking is to get the nice FEED carbon door handles they come with better hinges an connectors an they look amazing.

[RX-7 Steve]

Originally Posted by jcsaleen

The leather is not a low end leather if you actaully look it..... The only thing that Fd's are prone to is the rear bins being damaged due to some peoples neglegence. I have yet to see an Fd with the center section of the tranny cover come apart.....It's a tad bit annoying but the handles become lose I elimnated that by putting a washer on both sides of the "2" secrews that hold the door handles in place. The best way to alleviate the hinges cracking is to get the nice FEED carbon door handles they come with better hinges an connectors an they look amazing.

Hell no, the leather ain't low-end.... As for the rear-bins, I once made my little sister sit back there because I didn't want to drive the minvan. (didn't damage them at all though). I too have never seen an FD's center-console tranny-cover come apart, although the plastic under the leather in mine is cracked because at some point in it's life some fatass decided to put his elbow there and use it as leverage to haul his obese ass into the seat..... I also agree the design and materials in the RX-7 interior is classier than the Subaru's..... I haven't had any problems with my door handles, but I plan on getting those c.f. FEED handles anyway.

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by RX-7 Steve

Hell no, the leather ain't low-end.... As for the rear-bins, I once made my little sister sit back there because I didn't want to drive the minvan. (didn't damage them at all though).



I haven't had any problems with my door handles, but I plan on getting those c.f. FEED handles anyway.

Same here /\ !

I also have had a couple of petiet girls in the back an no problems just some people complain about it.

Pix of my car are in my Sig just click it*

[RX-7 Steve]

Hey, that's cool! How'd you make that picture-link?

[BlackGT2000]

My neighbors FD which I have had the most experience with, has exibited almost all the problems that Tat described. Its a nice car but I wouldn't say that the interior is anything special. Its sporty but the interior is coming apart (gauges, interior door handles, even center console area) as are the exterior door handles.

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by RX-7 Steve

Hey, that's cool! How'd you make that picture-link?

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Paste that to your sig Delete only the blue...

[TatII]

jcsaleen, your FD looks extremely mint. i would definitly like to see it in person. so i guess maybe we will have to make an arrangement to meet up one day. how does today sound?

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by TatII

jcsaleen, your FD looks extremely mint. i would definitly like to see it in person. so i guess maybe we will have to make an arrangement to meet up one day. how does today sound?

Sure, Where an when?