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Old 05-27-2003, 01:35 PM
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TIME FOR A MECHANICAL ENGINEER TO ENTER THE CONVERSATION...

THE AWD OF THE MITSU VR4 WILL PROVIDE ENOUGH GRIP TO BEAT THE SS OUT OF THE BLOCKS....THIS OF COURSE ASSUMES YOUR WILLING TO DUMP YOUR CLUTCH FROM ABOUT 3K RPM, AND THUS TRASH THE ENTIRE DRIVE TRAIN OF YOUR 40k+ CAR....

ONCE THE ENERGY RELEASE FROM THE FLYWHEEL IS "DUMPED" ACROSS THE INTERSECTION THE SS IS GONNA KICK ASS - OH YA

SO ALL OF YOU OUT THERE DRIVING DISPOSABLE RICE BURNING POS IMPORTS - GET A REAL CAR.

P.S. HAVE FUN REPLACING THE TWO TURBOS EVERY 60k - NOT TO MENTION THE TRANSMISSION. CAMAROS ARE SLOWER ACROSS THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DODGE ALL THE F'N PARTS THAT FLY OFF THE RICERS AT "TAKE OFF"
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Old 05-27-2003, 02:07 PM
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TIME FOR A MECHANICAL ENGINEER TO ENTER THE CONVERSATION...

THE AWD OF THE MITSU VR4 WILL PROVIDE ENOUGH GRIP TO BEAT THE SS OUT OF THE BLOCKS....THIS OF COURSE ASSUMES YOUR WILLING TO DUMP YOUR CLUTCH FROM ABOUT 3K RPM, AND THUS TRASH THE ENTIRE DRIVE TRAIN OF YOUR 40k+ CAR....

ONCE THE ENERGY RELEASE FROM THE FLYWHEEL IS "DUMPED" ACROSS THE INTERSECTION THE SS IS GONNA KICK ASS - OH YA

SO ALL OF YOU OUT THERE DRIVING DISPOSABLE RICE BURNING POS IMPORTS - GET A REAL CAR.

P.S. HAVE FUN REPLACING THE TWO TURBOS EVERY 60k - NOT TO MENTION THE TRANSMISSION. CAMAROS ARE SLOWER ACROSS THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DODGE ALL THE F'N PARTS THAT FLY OFF THE RICERS AT "TAKE OFF"
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Old 08-16-2003, 11:14 PM
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3000gt vs camaro ss

the camaro would smoke the 3000gt. not right off the line, but it would catch it in the end. My friend has a 95 3000gt sl, and i have a 95 z28. we raced and i smoked him. theres no way, the camaro just has torque and a better horsepower curve.
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Old 08-17-2003, 10:15 PM
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I cannot believe some of the bs responses in this thread. I swear my I.Q. just dropped reading several of the replies on the second and third page.

Lets make this simple. A VR4 traps at 100-102 stock. A Camaro Z28/SS traps at 104-106 stock. At the end of the 1/4th, a car trapping ~4 mph less, while having ~40 less hp. and ~20 less lb.-ft., and weighing ~350 lbs. more will not run with a Z28/SS. End of story. Nuff' said.
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Re: 3000GT vs Camaro SS

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I cannot believe some of the bs responses in this thread. I swear my I.Q. just dropped reading several of the replies on the second and third page.

Lets make this simple. A VR4 traps at 100-102 stock. A Camaro Z28/SS traps at 104-106 stock. At the end of the 1/4th, a car trapping ~4 mph less, while having ~40 less hp. and ~20 less lb.-ft., and weighing ~350 lbs. more will not run with a Z28/SS. End of story. Nuff' said.
Since you like things simple - then you'll make up whatever reasons to believe your own biases. If you wish to ignore traction, gearing and a host of other relevant issues then you’ll be stuck in your little “trap speed this” and “hp that” world forever.

I'm sure reading posts have nothing to do with your decreased IQ.













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Old 08-18-2003, 02:25 PM
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I beleive it is yogs that keeps saying this.... its a driver's race. Plain and simple. I have only raced one, non track, this was a red light and we both went. He didn't get a jump on me, we left the line even for about 20 mph then I gradually pulled away. He didn't have a good jump, lost his advantage off the line and I took him out.

In this case I was the better driver. I think this how a majoirty of the races would turn out. What ever the case, you are about to see a hell of a race when the 2 line up.
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Re: 3000GT vs Camaro SS

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I beleive it is yogs that keeps saying this.... its a driver's race. Plain and simple. I have only raced one, non track, this was a red light and we both went. He didn't get a jump on me, we left the line even for about 20 mph then I gradually pulled away. He didn't have a good jump, lost his advantage off the line and I took him out.

In this case I was the better driver. I think this how a majoirty of the races would turn out. What ever the case, you are about to see a hell of a race when the 2 line up.
I can see a LT1 f-body vs. a 3000GT VR4 being a good race. I was not arguing that. I'm talking about LS1 f-body vs. 3000GT VR4. LS1's have about 50 more hp. than LT1's, with all of it being top end power. From a dig, they are similar till you hit about 70. Then it's LS1 time.
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Why is this thread still going after over a year?????
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Re: 3000GT vs Camaro SS

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Why is this thread still going after over a year?????
Because some people (no names in particular) still don't get it.
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Old 08-19-2003, 10:38 PM
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Really the only things the 3000GT's have going for them is the AWD, I realy wish they were lighter, actually I wish both cars were more around the 3100-3300 lbs range but oh well, It'd be sweet to see a heavily modded 3000GT go up against a supercharged Camaro SS with slicks.
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Old 10-16-2003, 09:52 AM
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No its ok I already tested this one. I have a 1992 Dodge stealth TT and i beat my friends 1996-99 Im nut sure but throught those years Camero SS and I beat pleanty of new z28's when i was stock not i have a boost controler and K&N with a 3' full exhast and dual HKS mufflers. I killed all of them by at least 3 cars and still pulling. As for that SS he lost so badly from a stop we went from a roll at 10MPH i beat him the next 4 times we did that. I droped it to first reved to 5k RPM and sliped the clutch and left like i was from a stop chirping the tires. I beat him by 2 cars and still pulling this time. These races were on at least 3/4 mile long road. So contest over stop saying they will beat the vr-4s cause they wont, Already proven.
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Old 10-17-2003, 10:44 PM
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Re: Re: 3000GT vs Camaro SS

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Because some people (no names in particular) still don't get it.
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Comparing a VR4 vs. an Camaro SS (not the Z28folks). Now I get the impression that everyone wants to compare the LS1 version of the SS. That'll work. Everyone should know that when you have AWD you can really scoot if you rev 3000-4500 or higher if you wish, and drop the clutch, your going to smoking the bejesus out of a SS. AWD is deadly off a line, but if your talking quarters thats a different story, but one flaw of AWD is top end speed. When your car has AWD it means its pushing hp to all wheels. So if you have 300hp and you push it to 4 wheels 300/4, you get 75hp per wheel. 300hp pushed through 2 rear wheels 300/2, you get 150hp per wheel. The more horsepower you send to the wheels with increase your top-end because as you go faster your drag effects your acceleration dramatically 4 75's won't push through higher speeds like 2 150's cause more hp per wheel allows you to accelerate faster, I see no reason a LS1 cannot catch up in the quarter mile, hense prooving why the trap times are higher in the quarter mile. Also the fact the the VR4 weighting a bellyfull 3800pounds really puts a crutch on the top end(STOCK REMEMBER), but in all cases I would have to give this one to the driver. Even though a VR4 wins at the get go, the SS will win past the get go. I wouldn't put my money on the car, put it on the driver in this race hands down.
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That's for the most part right. But from what i've learned, the VR4 being all wheel drive it should be ever so slightly ahead of the SS until about the 1/8th mile, after that the gearing and high end torque of the SS should allow it to pass the Mitsu with some ease....Assuming they're both automatics and there isn't much driving skill required...

Now can a mod please close this thread.
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