AWD Monsters

[GTS-4 Ben]

True ldelaysionl.


Name some crayzayjay.. that don't cost so much that only millionares can buy... and that are not full time 4WD.

[crayzayjay]

why not full-time 4WD? i was replying to:

I think as a road car it is alot better then any full time 4WD car...

anyway,

996 Turbo
993 Turbo
Carrera 4
Lancia Integrale EVO
Lancia Hyena
Audi Quattro 20V
Audi RS2
Impreza P1
Impreza 22B
Impreza RB5
EVO VI RS Sprint
EVO VI Makkinen Edition
EVO VII
Diablo VT (are we getting into millionaire territory here?)
EB110 (Yep!)

there are more to name but you're right there is no point comparing it to much more expensive cars.. anyway... that'll do for now... awaiting criticism,
jay

[Tom_S8]

what do you think about the new Audi RS6? I think it qualifies as an AWD monster... 4.2 Biturbo V8 with 450 hp , 6 speed stick shift and audi's quattro 4WD drivetrain... just wait till they start tuning the enigne... intake , exhaust , BOV , increase the turbo pressure a bit... bah - 600 hp... At least that's what i think will be happening...

[Pennzoil GT-R]

the RS6 isnt even out yet is it? or is it just been released in germany. it definitely isnt out over here in the UK and we normally get em soon after the germans.

as for the comparison, the R34 would win, its AWD is way more tuned to the road.

and i always thought that the skyline was permanent 4wd, but it shifted the torque so there was only about 20% at the front wheels/80% at the back instead of full RWD???

[Tom_S8]

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
the RS6 isnt even out yet is it? or is it just been released in germany. it definitely isnt out over here in the UK and we normally get em soon after the germans.

as for the comparison, the R34 would win, its AWD is way more tuned to the road.

and i always thought that the skyline was permanent 4wd, but it shifted the torque so there was only about 20% at the front wheels/80% at the back instead of full RWD???

The ATESSA system (in skylines) is a permanent RWD system until the car starts to spin/slide etc. or you set it some other way...

[What ya Smoking?!?]

i would pick the mitsubishi! its sweet!:bandit: :smoka: :smoker2: :ylsuper

[MattyG]

Honestly, there are so many Skyline addicts on this site, its pointless putting a GTR in a poll because it will always win. Unless you pit it against a 911 or a ferrari, and even then it would be close.

[Fliquer]

The thing is, Tom, that most of the RS6's parts are already high performance. It would be difficult (or expensive) to find/make an intake that could be an improvement over the stock one.

Actually Im just ranting. I dont really know what that V8 is made of.

[Pennzoil GT-R]

To MattyG---> yeh there are alot of Skyline addicts on here because it is a brilliant car that will make a lot of more expensive cars look stupid. Its easily the best car out of Japan. And its also very tunable. There are better cars out there, but its hard to think of any in the same price range (except perhaps TVRs)

To Tom_S8---> are there any Audi tuning houses, i heard of a few for Merc's and BMW's but neva for Audi.

[flylwsi]

you've never heard of audi tuning houses?

under a brick eh?

what about total audi performance, which i believe is in canada, or oettinger, or apr down in alabama... some really hardcore companies building fast cars...

and that doesn't include europe...

the dtm audi tt v8 cars were made by an independent company, not audi, so you better count them too... v8 audi tt... hmm...

[Pennzoil GT-R]

Originally posted by flylwsi
you've never heard of audi tuning houses?

under a brick eh?

what about total audi performance, which i believe is in canada, or oettinger, or apr down in alabama... some really hardcore companies building fast cars...

and that doesn't include europe...

the dtm audi tt v8 cars were made by an independent company, not audi, so you better count them too... v8 audi tt... hmm...

not from the US, so no clue about any of US ones you mentioned. but anyway i kinda shouldnt have posted that cos thinkin about it i do know of some tunin houses (Abt (they make the V8 Audi TT), MTM), but none as high profile as Brabus (or even AMG) or Alpina (or M GmbH) are to Merc and BMW.

[Fliquer]

Back in the 80s, Treser was a major Audi tuner, like right now how dinan is for BMW.

Im surprised Tom didnt mention it...

Treser Info

[RACER D12]

sure a skyline is not gonna get around a 180 degree hairpin turn with a little loose gravel sprayed across the middle of the turn quicker than the wrx or evo. That is a rare conditon and it wouldn't be far behind.

Were do you live? those conditions come up all the time in real life. Maybe not 180 degrees all the time but close. I have talked to people who have driven the R34 one who owns a R33 one too and they said its not better than 4wd for every day driving. In real life you have rain, sand, oil, ice, snow and they said 4wd just kicks ass in real life and in the twisties but they all still loved the skyline. And the one who has one said the Atessa system is a pain he said its like a big brother when your driving he feels its for people who sshouldnt be driving a sports car like the skyline.


Also GTS-4 Ben stop ranking on 4wd cars I think it makes perfect sence to street race a 4wd car.

And one more thing if 4wd cars have so much understeer how does that make them for people who cant drive?