2g GST/GSX vs. 95-96 Mustang Cobra

[metalhedskater]

13,800 for a fucked up eclipse??? yea ok! i dont know where you are shopping! and 356 a month??? yea, can someone say "bullshit???" i bought my 99 eclipse gst for 14k inlcuding 4 year warranty.... with 51000 miles on the dot. the lowest interest because of the cosigner....i pay 250 a month for the car....and it is only paid for 4 years.....it is very rare that a car dealer will sale a car for a 5 year plan.... if you font believe me about the car check here and check the condition for yourself http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/587724... and i hope the remark about a 32000 mustang wasnt to me....because i never said 32k i said 20k for a GT, and if you dont believe me check blue book value son....and shit for 32k id buy a fucking viper for 8 grand more or a supra

[scottsee]

2 year warrenty hu? who was it through. alot of these warrenty places went backrupt. i'd check on that. you might be up shitcrick. ps. i hope they made a 4 pounder on your ass..

[metalhedskater]

damn, there is a lot of grammatical mistakes in there! Sorry guys!

[scottsee]

i like spelling stuff wrong. is that ok?

[JoeWagon]

Prices that people bought their car for don't really make a basis for comparison. NADA on a 99 GSX and 99 cobra shows me that the cobra costs 2k more. 2k easily translates to outperform a Cobra, so what are we arguing?

EclipseRST has a total of $4,000 into his 2g GST which is looking at 350+whp.

[joemathews]

"eating any cobra" is a strong phrase...but to the SVT dude, he did spend probably twice as much as most of us 2g dsm guys for his car. I bought my 96 tsi awd with 78k for $6700. That is less than half of your car. Sure, it only does low 15's stock. But with $3 grand in mods, it will do 12's (95gsxracer i.e. Kevin Jewer was running high 12's with $1800 or so into his 2g gsx). That is still only 2/3 the price of your car.

So you can pull on me after we hit 80? That's awesome, congratulations. How often do most people street race past 80? I never would, and I hope others don't either. At the track it would be irrelevant, because the start an awd eclipse would get on the stang would be ridiculous. What are cobra 60' times? Not as fast as gsx's, i'll tell you that.

I don't want to demean your car, because I think mustangs sound great and have nice looks. However, I like the 2g eclipse's looks better, and for my budget, the eclipse can go faster for the money.

All in all, I started this thread a few months ago. At the time, I did not have a car. I had just sold my camaro, and was shopping around. Now you can see what my decision was by the picture in my sig. Sorry rustangs just won't cut it for me.

[daveshapellSVT]

I never said my Cobra runs 12.5.. i said 03 and o4 do.. and mine doesn't run 13.9 either.. stock is 13.5 and i know this because of this:

took it to the track two weekends ago..

[ashah000]

13.5 is stock huh.. and you are saying that because of your time slip
Um.. according to your mods your not stock..
"4:10 rear end
eibach springs
BBK underdrive pullies
Flowmaster cat back(american thunder)"

The stock quarter mile time is 13.9
The stock GST runs 14.9 stock. A GSX would be faster.
Hmm.. 1 second slower for more than double the price of the the eclipse. I think not.

[daveshapellSVT]

well hey, i'm glad you bought a car you like.. thats what really matters.. I totally understand the budget deal because thats why i didn't get a new 10th anniversary SC Cobra, 425 a month was just too much for me at the time so i bought my 99 Instead.. So i totally get the cost factor.. As for the 60' times i'm looking to get 1.8sec on the tires i just bought.. stock is probably 2.0-2.1.. thing about the AWD launches is your eventually gonna break something if you launch hard.. AWD launches are great but its only a matter of time before the fun runs out.. my buddy had a 91 eclipse and he blew the clutch and broke axles like 3 times within a yr of owning the car from doing hard launches.. just something to look out for

[EclipseRST]

thats his own fault... he drove his car like a moron and he suffered for it! if you treat your car well and take care of it stuff wont break or fail as much!

[ashah000]

Well how was he launching it?
If he knew what he was doing, I am sure he wouldn't break anything. I am just guessing here but I am sure the clutch was about to go, probally on the edge. And I dont think that breaking an axle is that easy

[NeonblueEclipse]

Originally Posted by RiceRocket18

i am not talking about the engine. but for the purpose of general and overal durability. there is certain no doubt that those Jap engines are incredibly powerful and durable.

u know that the 4g63 engines were built in Normal, Illionos ( sp)

( if was already posted sorry did not read the hold thread so far )

if you wanted the best opion, both forums will be baised for there own cars, getta moderator to move the threads to an ll cars forums ( offtopic ) and there you will get opinions from everyone
is just my 2 cents take it or leave it

a stock DSM tsi, tsi awd, gs-t gsx will own a stang anyday IMO
and a modded DSM is that much scarier to tha one whose racing you :lol

[daveshapellSVT]

You can argue all u want about how fast a 99 mustang Cobra is stock, but your wrong.. depending on the driver they run 13.4-13.7.. only reason i'm not much faster than stock is because i had shitty tires, which is why i just bought some and i should be getting them tomorrow according to UPS tracking. Don't worry yourself bud, i'm gonna hit up the track friday or saturday and i'll be sure to post my times... see when your car is fast and actually makes power you have traction problems.. And as for your camparison in price between cars.. eat me cause you get what you pay for.. plus what yr is your car? of coarse your gonna get a DSM cheaper used they don't hold there value as well as a Cobra..Now when i speak for Cobras i am not speaking for GT's or base model mustangs..

[EclipseRST]

as far as i know its not easy... i have yet to break an axle in either of my cars and i have put my RST to the test!

[daveshapellSVT]

whats an RST? did they make a model called the RST or did you just get a turbo kit for your RS?