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#31
10-26-2008, 03:55 PM
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Re: VR4 vs SS/SC
Im sorry if i sound a little short, but saying that didnt pull because im a bad driver doesnt seem right to me.
No matter the numbers of my car, If your insinuating that me beeing a bad driver is why my car isnt pulling dirty on a staged LSJ, your very wrong my friends. I have an EBC, not an MBC, thus i have to deal with the speed of my wastegates and boost-cut and all that fun garbage. 9b's dont take kindly to holding at a constant psi over stock, which mine is at. That was the reason for unsteady boosting. Though i didnt brake-boost, at no point have i made a driver's error in a race except missing 3rd vs. a supercharged veilside NSX. (needless to say he would have beat me either way, its our shop car at work) No matter what track times may say, he hung with me.Of course they will have wrose track times, there is no such thing as a FWD car beeing superior to an AWD car down low. This run was from a 40 roll, traction is no longer an issue. I have an HKS twin intake, free-flowing as hell exhaust, EBC @14.5 psi, Lightweight flywheel, and an HD clutch that would make a difference over stock in a race. MZR was stage 2 in the race with an intake. FWD dyno proven at only around a 12% drivetrain loss vs. a car weighing almost 1000lbs more with AWD loss from a roll, of course the SS stands a chance at hanging if not pulling. My driving ability has nothing to do with it. I love my VR-4 and would take it any day over an LSJ (no offense guys), but i give credit where credit is due. We will race and video tape it, he will more than likley pull on me with his header/dp now from a roll. We will just have to see. |
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#32
10-26-2008, 04:17 PM
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Re: VR4 vs SS/SC
FWD is closer to 18% DTL, not 12%.
Also your estimation of 400hp is a bit much. You may be more like 350-360 bhp tops. Still with your mods you should have no problems beating a staged LSJ. Theres either something wrong with your tune, or your driving ability. You make the choice. Oh and I am also not trying to be a dick here. There was a discussion on 3si about a 12.0 9b car without nitrous. One of the guys laughed about how there are 15g cars that dont even run that and how it means there are tons of people running around with shitty tunes.
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#33
10-26-2008, 04:19 PM
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Re: VR4 vs SS/SC
Hai Sid! lol
I love your VR-4 and would take it any day over my LSJ too, but at least mine may be finally running after our little discovery yesterday. We never did race MZR last night...so you know what that means 
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#34
10-26-2008, 04:24 PM
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Re: VR4 vs SS/SC
Another thing to add is curb weight on the SS/SC is just under 3000. VR4's usually weight 3700 at most. There have been some TT's known to weigh 3500 from the factory.
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#35
10-26-2008, 04:24 PM
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Re: VR4 vs SS/SC
LSJ's are reported around 12% loss
im not trying to talk up an LSJ, nor am i trying to talk up my VR-4. i could care less who wins in a street race let alone who you think would win slealthee. Also, i dont recall ever posting my car has 400hp. anywhere. So your assumptions aren't making you sound any smarter.
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#36
10-26-2008, 04:25 PM
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#37
10-26-2008, 04:29 PM
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nor can i say that i am MZR. I was always told not to beleive everything i here. In junior high you learn that rule of thumb.
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#39
10-26-2008, 04:59 PM
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But realizing that your information may not always be right is key in life. Insulting my driving won't change the facts as much as you may want it to. untill you take a VR-4 with my mods, and an SS with MZR's, and race them with the VR-4 pulling as you say it should, I will not let anybody tell me i am a bad driver or my car is shit with its tune.
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#40
10-26-2008, 05:05 PM
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Re: VR4 vs SS/SC
No one said your car is shit. Having a bad tune can greatly affect your car.
A good example is a friend of mine has a 15g car with a ton of supporting mods (FMIC, 650's, Emanage, etc) yet he has issues he has been unable to solve. His car is only slightly quicker than a BPU 9b car because of it.
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#41
10-26-2008, 05:07 PM
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#43
10-26-2008, 05:09 PM
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hahaha
whatever is right my all knowing friend.
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10-26-2008, 05:12 PM
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How old are you 12? I'm trying to help and you're acting like a dick. Facts are facts, cars with your mods whould have no problem with a stage 2 LSJ.
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#45
10-26-2008, 05:14 PM
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im done with you bro.
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