Palin chosen as McCain's VP

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by blazee

It's a little more complicated than that though. The above is how the law reads, now.

Obviously complicated if we read too much into it. Are we sure the old laws referenced were not superceded? See below.

Immigration and Nationality Act

The Immigration and Nationality Act, or INA, was created in 1952. Before the INA, a variety of statutes governed immigration law but were not organized in one location. The McCarran-Walter bill of 1952, Public Law No. 82-414, collected and codified many existing provisions and reorganized the structure of immigration law. The Act has been amended many times over the years, but is still the basic body of immigration law.

The INA is divided into titles, chapters, and sections. Although it stands alone as a body of law, the Act is also contained in the United States Code (U.S.C.). The code is a collection of all the laws of the United States. It is arranged in fifty subject titles by general alphabetic order. Title 8 of the U.S. Code is but one of the fifty titles and deals with "Aliens and Nationality". When browsing the INA or other statutes you will often see reference to the U.S. Code citation. For example, Section 208 of the INA deals with asylum, and is also contained in 8 U.S.C. 1158. Although it is correct to refer to a specific section by either its INA citation or its U.S. code, the INA citation is more commonly used.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...0045f3d6a1RCRD

On the issue of this b.s. parsing of "natural born". The first Congress enacted a citizenship law (Act of March 26, 1790, Chapter 3, Section 1, Statute 104) that stated “the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.”

Therefore, there is no doubt in my mind this gives clear evidence that the framers of the Constitution, some of whom served in the first Congress, understood “natural born citizens” to be those people who were born U.S. citizens regardless of where they were born.

Professor Chin. <-------

In his paper and in an interview, Professor Chin, a registered Democrat, said he had no political motive in raising the question.

[2strokebloke]

Palin is actually the reason I decided to throw my vote away to Nader.

It's either an incredibly stupid ploy (some voters want to make history by electing a black man, now they can have a chance to make history by electing a female VP), or a really desperate move (ie, McCain couldn't find anybody better).

Now, McCain/Dole - that'd be the ticket

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

Palin is actually the reason I decided to throw my vote away to Nader.

You and the other 6 Nader supporters in CO.?

At least you're not voting for Obama so I'll give you credit there.

[2strokebloke]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

You and the other 6 Nader supporters in CO.?

At least you're not voting for Obama so I'll give you credit there.

He had a crowd of over 5000 at his speach... but of course the newspapers would never report on that.

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

He had a crowd of over 5000 at his speach... but of course the newspapers would never report on that.

I read someplace it was 4000 give or take. Plus he planned on having another rally during the RNC in St Paul. Regardless, nothing to brag about.

As far as the media that is quite obvious considering the darling of the liberal mainstream media is Obama. So go figure.

The way I look at it the more Nader supporters the better. That way we can have a repeat of the 2000 presidential election. The Demos blame Nader for Gore's loss in Florida. Of course this time around the results are unpredictable since candidates like Bob Barr (Libertarian) is in the mix now. On a recent Florida poll (Zogby) for what they are worth Barr pulled in 3% versus Obama 40% and McCain 43%. Nader's possible impact was not even mentioned.

Getting back on track Palin speaks at the RNC tonight.

[blazee]

Looks like their new campaign stickers are ready....

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by blazee

Looks like their new campaign stickers are ready....

I like this one better.

[blazee]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

I like this one better.

[2strokebloke]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

I read someplace it was 4000 give or take. Plus he planned on having another rally during the RNC in St Paul. Regardless, nothing to brag about.

As far as the media that is quite obvious considering the darling of the liberal mainstream media is Obama. So go figure.

The way I look at it the more Nader supporters the better. That way we can have a repeat of the 2000 presidential election. The Demos blame Nader for Gore's loss in Florida. Of course this time around the results are unpredictable since candidates like Bob Barr (Libertarian) is in the mix now. On a recent Florida poll (Zogby) for what they are worth Barr pulled in 3% versus Obama 40% and McCain 43%. Nader's possible impact was not even mentioned.

Getting back on track Palin speaks at the RNC tonight.

God bless Bob Barr. I don't really think McCain has much of a chance, for obvious reasons anyway. And in reality, even if Nader hadn't run in 2000, the outcome would have been the same, the dems just wanted to blame somebody who wasn't their nomination (even if Gore did get a few more votes, he would have still lost because of the electoral college - which is an outdated POS, but I'm not going to go off on a tangent about that).

Nader's also got support from the republicans, Ben Stein for instance is endorsing Nader and has claimed that he will be voting for him - and Stein is a pretty (damned) conservative guy. But he's been donating money to some of Nader's non-profit organizations for ages now, and he's strongly opposed to corporate crime, so I guess it's not really that surprising.

[KustmAce]

Originally Posted by blazee

Thats classy...

[-Davo]

I maybe living in Australia and can't give two-fucks about your President race, but I'd rather Obama over a CREATIONIST to run a damn country. I mean, SHIT the guy thinks the earth is 6,000 years old, and has no idea what your constitution actually says.

Just that alone is counter-humor to any terrorist-satricalesque jokes you can make about Obama.

http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1053

We have a saying in Australia, "Tell him he's dreaming"

McCain is so ignorant to basic definitions of basic words, and people actually want to elect him in the highest office of the country?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a...847de?lnk=raot

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/12/mccain-creationism/


Just my two cents.

[2strokebloke]

I don't think he's actually creationist, he's just whoring for votes right now.

I'd have more respect for him if he stood by his principles, instead of trying so hard to appeal to the Bush idiots.

[VR43000GT]

Originally Posted by blazee

And KustmAce, it's HILARIOUS! Didn't you get a kick out of all those millions of pictures that made fun of George Bush? The ones that made him look like a monkey etc? And all the skits played out to make fun of him? Give me a break...

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

Nader's also got support from the republicans, Ben Stein for instance is endorsing Nader and has claimed that he will be voting for him - and Stein is a pretty (damned) conservative guy. But he's been donating money to some of Nader's non-profit organizations for ages now, and he's strongly opposed to corporate crime, so I guess it's not really that surprising.

True Republicans support the Republican Party regardless of the candidate so it sounds like speculation to me. The same is applicable to Democrats. Sad to say plenty of straight ticket voters in this country regardless of the issues.

You mean old Ben Stein the Hollywood Republican that still defends Richard Nixon to this day?

He donates money to everybody and his brother probably even Obama. See link below. He donated quite a bit to McCain this year to include other Republicans so I would not make any assumptions on who he supports for POTUS. See link below.

Ben Stein's Campaign Contributions

Just like you Stein is an enigma.

[2strokebloke]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

True Republicans support the Republican Party regardless of the candidate so it sounds like speculation to me. The same is applicable to Democrats. Sad to say plenty of straight ticket voters in this country regardless of the issues.

You mean old Ben Stein the Hollywood Republican that still defends Richard Nixon to this day?

He donates money to everybody and his brother probably even Obama. See link below. He donated quite a bit to McCain this year to include other Republicans so I would not make any assumptions on who he supports for POTUS. See link below.

Ben Stein's Campaign Contributions

Just like you Stein is an enigma.

He was on some TV show saying he was likely voting for Nader, though I can't remember which one. Maybe it's on youtube somewhere, I'll look for it.