i don't understand your cars

[edman24]

hey shep did you hear what b16 just said? not trying to be a moderator. trying to prove a point. good job b16ej1

[Self]

Wow, I'm surprised how quickly everyone ganged up against me, thought it would at least take a day First, I'm not a mod on this board exactly, I'm the mod of the AF.com Racing forum. BUT, this is pretty much my home. 95% of my posts come from posting in the Honda/Acura section of the board. I am an origninal Purehonda.com member, since 1999 I love imports, Honda's, and the entire import performance/racing scene. I know most of you guys who are against me haven't been around too long to see that I'm one of the boards greatest supporters and anti-honda bashing antagonists. Now, if one of you could PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE quote just ONE SENTENCE of my previous post that says anything about hating Honda's, or even sounds like I could possibly dislike imports even the tiniest bit, please do so, so I can see where I went wrong. All I said was that I and many others alike, both import and domestic owners are extremely tired of hearing about horsepower per liter as a good reason to own an import over a domestic. It's such a mute and invalid reason, yet we all see person after person recylce it and post it on here time and time again. To say that domestic cars or shit and don't run or last, THAT is hating and bashing. I never said anything like that in my post. All I said is that it's easier/cheaper to make V8's faster, and that you can't group all of them into a stereotypical pack like you're doing, syaing they're shit and can't turn or run a road track. That would be like me "going to a street race and thinking I'm going to destroy ricers with my big pumping v8" See what you're doing? You're doing something I never did in my post, blatantly bashing a type or car. And yes, weight is definitely a problem, but it's a problem for which you have to overcome, usually through more horsepower. Well, hope you guys can see that I'm probably one of the biggest pro-importers on the boards here, and that as far as knowledge of the cars go, I have a fair amount. I work on my friend's cars with them constantly as they are always using my garage(bastards:finger: )

[shepworldwide]

Originally posted by shepworldwide
how did you manage to become a mod on the civic board anyways?

as you can see i never bashed you. i just ask how you were a mod in the civic forum?

[Self]

Originally posted by shepworldwide


as you can see i never bashed you. i just ask how you were a mod in the civic forum?

I know, I wasn't really talking to you, mostly the other guy...But yea, I'm NOT a mod on the civic section of the boards. This place is a WHOLE lot bigger than just here, hehe. I'm a mod on the AF.com Racing forum

[shepworldwide]

Originally posted by Self


I gaurantee you my car is tuned and tweaked quite a bit further than most cars on the road, no matter what their engine size. American cars can't turn for shit? My 1996 Z28 will smoke you on a road track 7 days out of the week, of that I'm pretty sure.

for the record though

[Self]

Originally posted by shepworldwide


for the record though

Yeap, I wasn't talking about Honda's in general though, or imports. I only say that because I KNOW FOR A FACT my car, which is modded pretty extensively is tuned better than most and will outrun most on a road course OR a drag track. That was a personal comment directed straight at him Such he seems to think my car is such shit, I'm pretty sure I can prove it's still quite a bit faster than his, no matter what the racing venue

[shepworldwide]

i was just fueling the fire man :hehe:

[Self]

Originally posted by shepworldwide
i was just fueling the fire man :hehe:

Hahha, yea I could kinda tell

[edman24]

well i always bash american cars for a few reasons. they deserve it because theyre such pieces of crap, the stupid engineers cause me to have a huge scar on my face for the rest of my life and all they know is "oh lets just make the engine bigger!!!" yah thats right a scar on my face from those damn american cars. know why? a design flaw in the 1976 seville my dad had caused the car to spin and made me get a huge piece of glass in the face. so you see my hatred for american cars is a little deeper then you guys could understand. just know ill find any reason to bash an american car. in my eyes those bastards deserve it. oh yah and you may beat in the quarter, but NEVER around a turn. my car was autocrossed with the lotus club in hollywood and made them look like pintos around turns. thank you very much.........

[Melt]

Please explain the design flaw on the 76 seville in a little bit more detail, generally if someone has had a car for a while they know what its can's and cant's are so not to jump the gun here, are you SURE it was a design flaw, or could it have been (possibly) driver error.

[fortyoz2eric]

god dammit - well i never intended for this forum to get on this topic. anyway thank you civic si for the answer that brought up some facts. and i'm sorry you honda guys get picked on so much.:hehehe: i don't know, i disagree about rotaries being so expensive. theres only 11 pieces to 13b engine so it isn't like the parts are exotic. and i know of 3 rotary specialty shops in my vicinity so at least around here it isn't a problem.

yea i go to school here in towson, md but i'm from the harrisburg area yea.

and i disagree completely with self - motor companies could use the technology available 100 years ago, but if they build the engine big enough yea it'll give you any amount of power.

[Self]

Originally posted by fortyoz2eric

and i disagree completely with self - motor companies could use the technology available 100 years ago, but if they build the engine big enough yea it'll give you any amount of power.

What? Rewrite that, definitely don't understand what you're trying to say here...
And Ed, sorry if you have a scar because of a design flaw. My cousin's best friend DIED in a car accident when the airbags in his Volvo failed to open. So technically I should hate all European cars So whatever your reason, YOU'RE the one bashing cars here, not me. Just so that's clear to everyone, I have no one-sided, close-minded views like Ed here.

[93speed]

Back to the ORIGINAL topic

I bought my honda and I'm getting ready to buy another honda for one reason: reliability. I'm not bashing any other manufacturers. I've just had extremely excellent experiences with Honda. My dad had an Accord that made it past 212,000 miles. Hell its probably still running today if the body hasn't rotted out. My accord is still running strong after 175,000. I turned from domestic after my experiences with them. I had an S-10 2.8 V6 with just over 100k and the thing was falling apart every day. My parent's 98 Tahoe is starting to fall apart. My uncle's Dodge Ram has had so many problems, I couldn't count them on both hands and feet. I could go on and on and on but I won't. How can I argue with that? Zero problems on a Honda compared to a ticking time bomb after 100k on a Domestic? Thats just my personal experience and my personal thoughts.

Again, I'm not trying to bash other cars. I'm giving you my personal experiences, thoughts, and reasons for buying Honda.

[fortyoz2eric]

Originally posted by Self


What? Rewrite that, definitely don't understand what you're trying to say here...

i'm sorry - its hard to word this. my point is that it is very easy to build an engine with plenty of horsepower. the art to building an engine lies in the engine's efficiency, cleanliness and technology incorporated. the s2000 engine is a damn fine engine with 120bhp/l. my bike is 150bhp/l. the RX-7 banzai's 20b is 275bhp/l. anyway my point is that any car company can build an engine with 275hp, but it takes talent to cram that much into a sub-2.5 liter engine

yea i don't know of anyone that has a problem with stock hondas. but i've wondered before are the engines still as reliable now that most of them are made in the u.s.?

[emerge]

wow, i love these kind of conversations. anyways, if i can remember all the way back to the first post, you asked why we mod imports because your brothers civic with an h22 only runs 14s? if im correct on that topic then my answer is simply this:

you can't stereotype a whole model car because of one vehicle. it's like if i saw a mustang running 15's everytime he drove. it could still be because hes a bad driver. or because something in HIS car isn't performing to its capacity. it doesn't necssarily mean all mustangs or all fords are slow. i also wanted to say i agree that auto enthusiasts should like all cars. i know i do ;D