Eclipse GSX V.S Maxima

[TatII]

well i've never said a max will make anyone say holy shit. but a facts a fact manuel stock 5 speed maxima's *late models* are faster then any eclipse. and another thing i found out today while skimming through pages of motortrend. a new 03 altima with full leather interior with the new revised 245hp engine did 0-60 in 5.95 seconds and cleared the quarter in 14.4 seconds. and thats with a full leather interior sunroof and everything. imagine a striped base model 3.5 SE it will hit 5.85 maybe. motortrend said that it was the fastest front wheel drive car they have ever tested. and the maximas are only a tad bit slower then the altima.

[KrNxRaCer00]

how are u going to say that a car that has the stats of 190/200, an weighs in at over 3000 lbs, is going to run a 14.7? ur saying with those stats, it can run the same time as a STOCK integra type r? NO way. im not saying the new ones' aren't fast, but an gen before then, NO WAY is it running a 14.7 stock...the integra type r has MORE power, an weighs almost 1000 lbs less. yet, it can only run the 1/4 in 14.7? don't even gimme torque as an excuse, because look at the S2000, compared to the GT mustang. the S2000 will run circles around it, with 100 lbs less torque. sorry, but jus cuz u like a car, doesn' tmean u gotta stand up an make ish up. if u really think thats the numbers it pushes, then cool, wuteva, but listen/read the stats. its really tough to believe.

[SledgehammerVette]

Yes I like the car and I'm sticking up for it. But I am also posting facts not bullshit. A 5-spd with a good driver can do it. Do a search on Maxima.org and you should be able to find a slip, then again if you don't want to I don't care I know what I read on other boards.

You don't have to believe it, but it has happened.

[KrNxRaCer00]

im not gonna get into a flame match w/ u, cuz it doesn't sound like that's wut u want, but sorta looks headed that way. anyways, don't believe all u see on the net man. u kno how easy it is to manipulate a slip in photoshop? all im sayin is that a car, with the STOCK numbers, would be VERY hard pressed to run that. for now, i simply couldn't believe a time like that, unless mod's/weight reduction were done.

[TatII]

well i never though 4th gen max's were that quick. but they should be able to hang with a 4th gen prelude v tec. that is until you guys start puttin in mods. with I/H/E a max can gain almost 30hp at the wheels while the prelude can gain like 12 and thats when the prelude will get left in the dust.

[BlOOe46]

prelude eh?

refer to my signature to my views on this

[bk2kmax]

I tell you what Bloo or blue whatever your name is you bring that lil Bimma 325 to NC and I'll hand your @$$ to you on a platter and you will be feeling blue.
325 Bimmas are overrated, you pay about 7 to 10 g's more for it than a Max and it's the Max is faster, bigger (roomy) and the reliability for our car is as good as your slow @$$ bimmer.

So don't talk trash, cause unless you got some mods (which is what it'll take for your slow a$$ car to beat a Max) don't try to put down the Max or I'll make that overpriced piece of car you got wish it had a real 6 cylinder engine like the VQ30 (Ward's Ten Best List 8 years and running).

I raced my friends 325 BM and he was overly impressed the way I spanked him 5 of the 5 times we raced, we were both stock and auto and I just $hit all over him by more than 4 cars. Get your stuff straight because you can't BS us on this forum.
SledehammerVette is right, he knows his $hiznit, anyway don't go jumping on the bandwagon against the Max just because your own this Eclipse forum, these guys respect the Max, why else would they be comparing a turbo'd sportcoupe to a family car, grocery getter, sleeper sedan in the first place.
It takes a lot of mods or turbo/sc or nitrous for your Bimmer to get close to the Max so take your BM to the gym and add some mods before you go hatin on the Max.:finger:

[TatII]

whoa thats alot of anger in that one. anyways, i don't think blooe is sayin that his bimmer is faster then a max, hes probrably just sayin that a speed eclipse will be faster then a 5 speed max or a 6 speed max when in reality it is not. and if you compare the GSX to the 2K3 ones the GSX woudlnt' even come close.

[BlOOe46]

Originally posted by bk2kmax
I tell you what Bloo or blue whatever your name is you bring that lil Bimma 325 to NC and I'll hand your @$$ to you on a platter and you will be feeling blue.
325 Bimmas are overrated, you pay about 7 to 10 g's more for it than a Max and it's the Max is faster, bigger (roomy) and the reliability for our car is as good as your slow @$$ bimmer.

So don't talk trash, cause unless you got some mods (which is what it'll take for your slow a$$ car to beat a Max) don't try to put down the Max or I'll make that overpriced piece of car you got wish it had a real 6 cylinder engine like the VQ30 (Ward's Ten Best List 8 years and running).

I raced my friends 325 BM and he was overly impressed the way I spanked him 5 of the 5 times we raced, we were both stock and auto and I just $hit all over him by more than 4 cars. Get your stuff straight because you can't BS us on this forum.
SledehammerVette is right, he knows his $hiznit, anyway don't go jumping on the bandwagon against the Max just because your own this Eclipse forum, these guys respect the Max, why else would they be comparing a turbo'd sportcoupe to a family car, grocery getter, sleeper sedan in the first place.
It takes a lot of mods or turbo/sc or nitrous for your Bimmer to get close to the Max so take your BM to the gym and add some mods before you go hatin on the Max.:finger:

did i ever say my car was a race car???
no
did i ever even once mention my car???
no
was it my decision to buy this car???
no
will i hand u ur ass once i can get my e30 m3???
most definitely

the fact is, i dont turn every car that i buy into a disgraceful platter of rice, its just stupid of u to think the reason i bought my car was to race stupid guys with severe cases of roadrage and uptightness about their cars . . .

[bk2kmax]

Originally posted by Zero8985
my eclipse beats an Altima GXE all the time, and if i am right, that should be close to the Maxima SE, and horsepower doesn't mean too much when you have a light car.

Apparently this Zero guy has Zero knowledge of the Maxima if he thinks a 2.4 Altima is close to a Max SE. BTW the Max in that year is only around 3100 lbs which isn't heavy for a 190HP V6.
The nerve of some Noobs.

[BlOOe46]

Originally posted by TatII
whoa thats alot of anger in that one. anyways, i don't think blooe is sayin that his bimmer is faster then a max, hes probrably just sayin that a speed eclipse will be faster then a 5 speed max or a 6 speed max when in reality it is not. and if you compare the GSX to the 2K3 ones the GSX woudlnt' even come close.

thx for trying to speak for me . . . but i wasnt saying anything about the gsx at all, what im really trying to say is i think people will go around overrating their car, whatever it may be

maxima owners are no different, if bk2k wants to talk about sleeper sedans and trash on BMWs, well, lets talk about the e39 m5, even the e34 . . . the fact is, it doesnt take much to beat my commuter car which is highly overweight and underpowered, but for maxima owners on their high horse, im sure there are plenty of things we can arrange to take care of that :smoker:

[bk2kmax]

Originally posted by BlOOe46


did i ever say my car was a race car???
no
did i ever even once mention my car???
no
was it my decision to buy this car???
no
will i hand u ur ass once i can get my e30 m3???
most definitely

the fact is, i dont turn every car that i buy into a disgraceful platter of rice, its just stupid of u to think the reason i bought my car was to race stupid guys with severe cases of roadrage and uptightness about their cars . . .

I know he wasn't saying his car is faster but his statement was this:

personally, ive never seen a FI max, all the maxes ive seen are 15-16 second cars . . . if u want to modify a max, more power to u . . . but ive just never seen a huge aftermarket response to maxs besides CAI, headers, exhaust - all the poser goodies, oh yeah, dont forget clear corners and fog lights, now automatically their car is fast <quoted from Bloo

I never said your car was a racecar, neither did I say mine is one either, you were dissing the Max and I had to represent. My car is not riced out in any kind of way and you will definitely need an M3 to beat my Max cause that wimpy @$$ 325 is overrated.
BTW you will also be spending alot of cheeze to get the extra HP to be able to beat my Max.
All I have to do is drop in an SC for about 2500K and I'm right in the @$$ of that M3 you just spent 45K plus to have similar performance.
By the way when they drop those new turbos for the 5th Gen be prepared to have your @$$ handed to you by the Max.

FYI there are stock Max's running low 14's.

No one likes to have their car dissed especially by a car that is slower, we never said a few bolt on rice pieces and especially some clear corners are automatically making the Max's fast or any other vehicle for that fact.

It's just a little obvious here that the comparison of a stock car family sedan, grocery getter is being compared to a turbo all wheel drive sport coupe has to say a lot about the kind of respect you got to give in the to even make the comparison in the first place.

My friend has an RSX and I $hitted all over his car everytime we raced, he thought I was turboed or SC'd until I popped the hood and was all stock, so don't give me that an RSX will beat a Max because it won't.
And take the all wheel drive Eclipse against a Max from a roll and the Max will $hit on him as well because you lose the advantage that the awd give you, ask anyone who's not biased about their Eclipse and they will tell you the same thing.
The awd is great from a standstill but start on the roll and it's nothing but added weight. Go ahead and flame on, I have mad respect for the AWD Turbo Eclipse, I'm just stating facts and bringing to light the whole comparison in the first place is a moot point.

For $hit$ and giggles why wasn't this comparison made into StockTurbo AWD Eclipse vs Turbo Max or SC Max, that would be more realistic even though the SC or Turbo Max will $hit all over the Eclipse, this would even up the playing field both being boosted.

FYI Turbo Max's and even SC'd have been known to $hit on Camaros, Stangs and some Supras as well, there's a site with videos of it and I will post the link when I get home, right now I'm at work and don't remember what it is.
To Bloo, just try to have a lil more respect when you start talking about other peoples cars and to that Noob Zero go to Carfacts.com and learn the difference between a 3.0L V6 and a 2.4 4cylinder, no disrespect intended but everyone else here knows you can't compare that older year Altima with the 2.4 to the 3.0L Max, maybe the new Altima with the 3.5 but not the 2.5S.

[deadmeat521]

i have raced an eclispe from 70 punch and smoked to 130 when i shut it down (wife was bitchin i was going to fast)

[bk2kmax]

Originally posted by BlOOe46


thx for trying to speak for me . . . but i wasnt saying anything about the gsx at all, what im really trying to say is i think people will go around overrating their car, whatever it may be

maxima owners are no different, if bk2k wants to talk about sleeper sedans and trash on BMWs, well, lets talk about the e39 m5, even the e34 . . . the fact is, it doesnt take much to beat my commuter car which is highly overweight and underpowered, but for maxima owners on their high horse, im sure there are plenty of things we can arrange to take care of that :smoker:

First off, I'm never on a high horse, you don't know me well enough to say that, second you started this whether you noticed it or not.
I wasn't talking trash, you started the mess with that crappy statement about adding a few rice pieces and some clear corner garbage and automatically we (Max or Japanese vehicles) think we're fast.

When I did bash, I only bashed on your particular model, not BMW's in general. As far as sleeper's the cars you mentioned aren't even in that category, an M5 is not a sleeper, people who buy that kind of car know as well as the rest of the auto enthusiast what that car is capable of.
I was stating the obvious, yes it doesn't take much to beat a 325 but I resented the fact that you were putting down our car and yours is slower.
So imagine that you are saying that the Max isn't fast or it is slow, What does that make your car?
I'm certain there are a lot of things that you can do to your car to make it faster than the Max, the obvious focal point of this thread was lost and one of the points was the comparison being made of a Turbo car to a stock car, so all I was stating in comparison of your car stock to mine is a no contest.
Take it for what it's worth, you started it and I was adding constructive and no matter how angry or disrespectful you thought I was getting, accurate critique as well.
I don't bother about the anger, I didn't get angry, I represented, which is what anyone on any of these forums will do when you disrespect their vehicle as you did to us (Max owner's).

[BlOOe46]

I wasn't talking trash, you started the mess with that crappy statement about adding a few rice pieces and some clear corner garbage and automatically we (Max or Japanese vehicles) think we're fast.

whether u like that statement or not, i personally know these types of "modders" who run around talking about the gayest import "speed" shops that will absolutely rip people off if they dont know what theyre in for

As far as sleeper's the cars you mentioned aren't even in that category, an M5 is not a sleeper, people who buy that kind of car know as well as the rest of the auto enthusiast what that car is capable of.

Not a sleeper car? do u know the definition of a sleeper car? the m5 is always referred to as a "wolf in sheeps clothing" - do u know why? stock outside appearance, that constitutes a sleeper car, ive seen people rebadge their m5s as 528i

I was stating the obvious, yes it doesn't take much to beat a 325 but I resented the fact that you were putting down our car and yours is slower.So imagine that you are saying that the Max isn't fast or it is slow, What does that make your car?

Obviously what ive been stating all along, i dont know why my car got dragged into this in the first place, i refer to it as a commuter car, and as such, i dont expect it to have any speed whatsoever, it is a refined drive with good gas mileage and a good awd system for the cold weather and icey conditions we get around here, nothing more nothing less

I'm certain there are a lot of things that you can do to your car to make it faster than the Max, the obvious focal point of this thread was lost and one of the points was the comparison being made of a Turbo car to a stock car, so all I was stating in comparison of your car stock to mine is a no contest.

No shit, i was simply stating the things ive seen of local maximas and the posers who drive them/ overrate them to be something they werent. BTW - how many times are u going to keep bringing my car up? its obviously not fast, and im not even talking about racing a *gasp* maxima, the fact that u keep bringing it up makes me think u might be a little insecure about ur cars performance

meh, i guess thats all i have for now . . . feel free to continue this discussion b2k