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#31
10-13-2002, 12:12 AM
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A few things...
I agree the crime is an extremely sad, sick and spineless crime - the sooner the authorities catch this megalomanic (or even more sadly these meglomanics) the better for all concerned. It's a terrible thing when we don't feel safe in our communities and fear for ourselves, people we love and for the others in the community. SilverLotus340R mentions that it isn't possible for just anyone to shoot someone from 800-1000 feet away. I'm afraid and saddened to say it is - without elaborating too much - with access to the right equipment (which is freely available in the US under their gun control laws), some natural skill and some training and practice: sadly making lethal shots from long range isn't that difficult. And there are rifles that have an effect range of over 2000 ft (and more) which are in use around the world. And though I share in everyone's anger, frustration and sadness in respect of these heinous crimes being perpertrated in the US - even more sadly for us as members of the human race, that there have been and continue to be many more people killed by the activities of snipers around the world every day and each death in itself is as much a tragedy for their families and communities as the ones we do hear about in the media that are so close to home. 
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#32
10-13-2002, 12:19 AM
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Yeah, that's right replicant. The thing is, it's not a supre-snipe. The range has been estimated, I think, 200-400ft. I do know it's just a basic snipe range nothing like what was planned for the Winter Olympics.
That was apparently a super-snipe way up in the mountains. If you saw a pic showing how far the mountains were to the stadium, it's a real scary thought that someone can shoot you from that distance.
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10-13-2002, 02:21 AM
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I'm going deer hunting tomorrow, I hope I don't accidently get shot. Crap, now I'm going to be paranoid all day tomorrow.
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#34
10-13-2002, 05:17 AM
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Now I don't live in the States (never have and probably never will) but I feel that the gun control laws over there need tightening. It seems too easy for any "nutbag" to be able to purchace (legally) fairly hightech and accurate rifles.
Some say the gun control laws here are a joke but luckily it does reduce the number of "non stabily minded" (read - crazy) people getting hold of rifles legally. NOTE: this is just my opinion from what I have seen (allbeit on TV) and heard from friends that are in or have been in the US.
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10-13-2002, 04:02 PM
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Like I've been saying, he doesn't have anything hi-tech, at least based on police reports. It's supposively a standard sniper.
gun control here as far as I know passive. The laws are strict, just not enforced enough like they should be probably. i don't much about the gun control laws really.
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10-15-2002, 07:52 AM
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looks like the a$$hole has struck again.......
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2328555.stm they'll catch him or them sooner or later hopefully sooner before he does any more harm....and hopefully they fry him 
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10-15-2002, 11:46 AM
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He certainly cant be caught fast enough. I cant wait to hear the anti-capitol punishment people when this guy goes to trial (assuming they dont kill him while catching him)
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10-15-2002, 02:14 PM
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There are plenty of states, especially down south where you can easily purchase a rifle. People hunt and thus, don't really need much to get one. Teenagers can have access to guns and you can get one at your local Kmart practically. As for how accurate, don't understimate someone who is determined. This guy, whoever he is, is a good shot. And it is not like it is that hard to shoot from far distances with the right amount of practice. The main reason why no information is being given is because, the sniper is watching what they do and say. Thus, telling the media everything they know will only make it that much harder to catch him. He's already proven that he is listening when he took out that little kid. Now for an update, he killed someone last night in a shopping center. One shot to the head. This time though, many people came forward and actually saw something. I'll let ya'll know of anything else.
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10-16-2002, 07:57 AM
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on the news today they mentioned that they have an actual eyewitness to the latest shooting.......
US officials say they are more confident of a breakthrough in their hunt for the serial sniper who has killed nine people in the Washington area. For the first time since the shootings began two weeks ago, at least one witness actually saw the sniper open fire on his latest victim, investigators told the Washington Post newspaper. Police are searching for a white van seen near the attacks Witnesses have also provided at least partial licence plate numbers, as well as descriptions of the white or cream-coloured Chevrolet Astro van with a silver roof rack seen leaving the scene, which one eyewitness said had a broken tail-light. "There was some additional information that we were able to get from last night's case, and I am confident that that information is going to lead us to an arrest," Fairfax County Police Chief Tom Manger said. But the sniper continues to evade capture, and late on Tuesday the Pentagon agreed to a request from the FBI to provide manned, fixed-wing reconnaissance aircraft to help law enforcement agencies in the hunt. 'Dark-skinned' check out the link for more further info http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2332151.stm
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10-16-2002, 09:21 AM
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well i donīt know much about the american laws...
and i donīt like the death penalty but what this "man" (in my eyes he is no human any more)did, he should be electrocuted. i feel with the victims and their families and friends. how can a man do this. you should do something with the weapon laws! in germany nobody is allowed to keep a weapon with him. i donīt want to say that we are better... we saw horrible things in "Erfurt", too... i donīt know if you have heard about that. I hope the pollice will catch him soon
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10-16-2002, 09:29 AM
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Hopefully the bastard(s) wont ellude the police/FBI for much longer.
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10-16-2002, 10:45 AM
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The 24hr news channel os on all day where I work so I get a good dose of the details on this. From looking at the precision of the shots and the shooters ability to evade police even in a very public situation leads me to believe that his guy has some training, possibly military or mabey other. But this training is going to make it very hard to find him. Basicaly, if he decided to stop shooting right now they would probably never find him.
About gun control in the US: I can drive over to Walmart right now and buy a shotgun for $200 with ammo just by showing my Drivers Liscense. There is almost no gun control here and getting it will be very, very hard. All the conservatives with their "Right to bear arms" bull shit. That was written in 1776 when the world was a completely different place and you had to protect your property yourself w/o law enfocement help. Nowadays that is not needed. Well, before I go on too long I am going to wrap up.
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10-16-2002, 11:04 AM
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10-16-2002, 11:13 AM
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steel:
I am definetly not asking to take guns away from everybody. There is no reason to. Gun Control would not have stopped this crime at all. As far as the walmart thing goes: I was exagerating a bit, I have actually never bought a gun so I don't know the process but from what I can see at walmart it doesn't take much. I am no expert and I am not the one to decide how to deal with the gun control issue and to be honest I am not really sure where I stand. I go back and forth (which is obvious if you compare this post with my previous one)
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