Fu*k Gorry Movies!!!

[driftinggrifter2]

The endings in the saw movies threw you for a twist also which is another thing i liked about them.
But according to the original thread starter I guess we are all demented serial killers since we like these movies hell over 1/2 of america must be.
I like to know how people can watch lifetime. I think its because the people that watch that love to have drama in their lives. emotional manhaters of some sort

[Igovert500]

I think everyone would agree with you on your basic points. These movies are not for everyone. Children shouldn't be exposed to violence and sex. Hostel had about as much plot as Rocky 5.

But I think the point that is causing so much aggitation is this:

Originally Posted by Nayr747

The people that make and watch these movies have horrible psychological problems. I bet 99% of them have the same tendencies that serial murderers and rapists have.

Obviously many of us have seen some of these movies. I don't think that means we sacrifice baby squirrels to Satan, or secretly want to sexually assault children in a pentagram of scented candles. For whatever reason, probably something to do with enjoying being shocked/scared...we watch these movies.

If they end up having a good plot as well, we like them, if they suck we don't...but we still saw them. Schindler's List showed lots of really screwed up stuff, but it was an important movie, and my mother made me watch it at an early age, because of our family came from Germany at that time. I got taken to a few Holocaust meuseums and a concentration camp as field trips in school. There were quite vivid pictures and scenes there. Yet nobody complains about exposure to that, becuase we are 'learning not to repeat the past'.

We've been exposed to this stuff, yes we are probably jaded, I know I am, and I can stand to watch a movie like Hostel. I'll be honest, I just rented it and watched it an hour ago. And I can tell you, I rented it knowing full well it would be gory torture, but it was so hyped up, I wanted to see it. It sucked, wish I hadn't wasted my money, but whatever. I'm not going to go torture a boyscout with power tools.

Say I'm jaded, say I have bad taste, say it's a horribly stupid movie and I'm a moron for wasting $4.50, and say a large portion of the population is just the same. But don't start playing Dr. Phil and saying we are all emotionally unbalanced and have homicidal tendencies because we rented the newest in a long long long line of increasingly violent entertainment.



I saw Boy's Don't Cry....I have no desire to cross-dress
I saw Ocean's 11 and Gone in 60 Seconds....and while I'd love to have a Ferrari and $80mill, I'm not a klepto.
And lastly, I saw Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II...but have zero desire to be a genetically mutated amphibian highly proficient with numb-chucks

[Rally Sport]

Originally Posted by Igovert500

I saw Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II...but have zero desire to be a genetically mutated amphibian highly proficient with numb-chucks

Speak for yourself.. I know I want to, that'd be awesome.. eating pizza all day.

[turtlecrxsi]

Originally Posted by Rally Sport

Speak for yourself.. I know I want to, that'd be awesome.. eating pizza all day.

I'm working on a formula right now...


...and I'm hungry for pizza...

[Nayr747]

Ok, well I may have gone a little too far with the whole people who like those movies are secretly serial killers. But who knows, it may have some truth to it. Just as people that like kiddy porn may be pedophiles, people that like gorry movies may like to do gorry things. But maybe not, I really don't know.

Originally Posted by Igovert500

Obviously many of us have seen some of these movies. I don't think that means we sacrifice baby squirrels to Satan, or secretly want to sexually assault children in a pentagram of scented candles. For whatever reason, probably something to do with enjoying being shocked/scared...we watch these movies.

But don't start playing Dr. Phil and saying we are all emotionally unbalanced and have homicidal tendencies because we rented the newest in a long long long line of increasingly violent entertainment.

I didn't say people that have seen the movies have problems. I said people that like them do. And I also said there are probably degrees to this.

So being scared/shocked is why people go see these movies? Why this particular way of doing it? There are many other ways to make people feel scared. And there are some forms I bet even you guys would agree shouldn't be shown in movies, etc. So why do you draw the line where you do?

Originally Posted by Igovert500

If they end up having a good plot as well, we like them, if they suck we don't...but we still saw them. Schindler's List showed lots of really screwed up stuff, but it was an important movie, and my mother made me watch it at an early age, because of our family came from Germany at that time. I got taken to a few Holocaust meuseums and a concentration camp as field trips in school. There were quite vivid pictures and scenes there. Yet nobody complains about exposure to that, becuase we are 'learning not to repeat the past'.

As I said before, I'm not talking about movies that are actually well done and have the gorry scenes in there because they need them to convey something. I'm talking about stupid movies that have no meaning accept to show demented images of people in pain for your enjoyment. If you didn't know that these movies were socially acceptable, you would think they shouldn't be shown. Just like how people get all up in arms when a 1 cent tax increase on potatoes is proposed, when if it was 1 cent more to begin with no one would say a thing. This is also shown in economics/marketing; People don't actually have some set reasonable price that they are willing to pay for some product. What determins people's purchase and their happiness with that purchase is based on whether they feel they got a "good deal." They determine this by looking at what other people payed for it, etc.

Sorry for the long rant, I'm just saying that people ussually base their opinions, descisions, etc on what they see other people doing. So you probably have a good point that because people are "jaded" about these movies, that may be the reason people don't have a problem with them.

Originally Posted by Igovert500

I saw Boy's Don't Cry....I have no desire to cross-dress
I saw Ocean's 11 and Gone in 60 Seconds....and while I'd love to have a Ferrari and $80mill, I'm not a klepto.
And lastly, I saw Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II...but have zero desire to be a genetically mutated amphibian highly proficient with numb-chucks

Yes, but did you like those movies? Did you go out and buy them after you saw them? Let me ask you something, if there was a movie about gays having sex that had no other reason for the movie existing (no plot, no acting, etc), and it was just two hours of full on graphic sex scenes, would you like it? If not, why? This movie fits your "shocking" cryteria. What if there was just a movie of kiddy porn (CGI, if it was real then that would bring up other arguments and screw up the analogy), with not plot, etc. That would be shocking. Would you go see it? Both of these movies lack one thing though: They're not socially acceptable topics. There is no real stigma attached to graphicly gorry movies, but there are huge stigmas on gay and child pronography topics. This wasn't always the case you know. In ancient Greece it was normal for men to have have sex with boys. This just proves that anything can be considered "normal" and socially acceptable, regardless of if it should be rationally regarded as such.