EVO IX RS vs. Camaro SS

[TerminalVelocity]

Originally Posted by KevinE326

true times. and I have raced a newer camaro on the highway and won.

then the driver was a joke, had problems with his car, or didnt race

[BullDog71ss]

Originally Posted by TerminalVelocity

then the driver was a joke, had problems with his car, or didnt race

Yup, what TV said...


Edit: Or he was racing a tired LT1.

[Igovert500]

My friend's ws6 pulled off a 13.1 bone stock. LS1s will walk you highway if your evo is stock.

[BullDog71ss]

Originally Posted by Igovert500

My friend's ws6 pulled off a 13.1 bone stock. LS1s will walk you highway if your evo is stock.

If both cars have compitant drivers it makes for a good 1/4 mile matchup at least. But the open road is a different story. I love the 1998 Camaro 1/4 mile time he posted...13.6 That's good stuff. This is why I don't bother with magazine times.

[BullDog71ss]

Originally Posted by TatII

talkin about road racing. the standard EVO is too heavy, the RS is lighter, and has a helical limited slip up front. the MR has a 6 speed and bilstien shocks. however i could be wrong, do all evo's from 05 up have bilstiens? and what else did the MR come with other then the 6 speed?

The MR has an upgraded stereo I believe, as well as some other interior goodies. Oh yeah, the wing comes standard on the MR but it's an option on the RS and I believe the standard car as well.

[KevinE326]

Originally Posted by BullDog71ss

If both cars have compitant drivers it makes for a good 1/4 mile matchup at least. But the open road is a different story. I love the 1998 Camaro 1/4 mile time he posted...13.6 That's good stuff. This is why I don't bother with magazine times.

got em from here:
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

if you can find me a more complete and you believe accurate source of 1/4 mile times than post it. The times here reflect times posted and listed elsewhere exactly... so why would the 13.6 on the 98 camaro be wrong? When you consider in 1998 (7-8 yrs ago) that was damn fast whats the question of the time?

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by BullDog71ss

This is why I don't bother with magazine times.

True.

Instead, you rely on your crooked perception of what fast is. Like how you feel that your high-14-second car should keep up with with a low-13-second Evo.

You should try asking some of the members in here that actually own an LS1-powered car what their cars run?

High 12's is possible, but an extreme rarity for a stock LS1. Same story for Evos, especially IX's. (Mid-low 13's usually, with 12's possible with the right driver.)

[-The Stig-]

Well, I've got a 01 Z28 with the godly LS1 and 6speed as many of you know... 01-02's were the strongest of the Fbody's due to the LS6 intake manifold and a few minor tweaks.

Regularly dyno out at about 310-315whp.

I've got just a few bolt ons, cat-back and a K&N Lid... I doubt the car would go much faster than 13.7 with it's current tires (245 Kumhos). If it had 275's maybe a touch faster from being able to come off the line a bit harder, so I'd say 13.4-13.5 realisticly.

[BullDog71ss]

Originally Posted by carrrnuttt

True.

Instead, you rely on your crooked perception of what fast is. Like how you feel that your high-14-second car should keep up with with a low-13-second Evo.

You should try asking some of the members in here that actually own an LS1-powered car what their cars run?

High 12's is possible, but an extreme rarity for a stock LS1. Same story for Evos, especially IX's. (Mid-low 13's usually, with 12's possible with the right driver.)

So does this change the fact that an Evo stands no chance against an LS1 powered F-body on the highway? No, it does not.

[-The Stig-]

I haven't raced an Evo yet, but I have raced a City Bus once, once we hit 60mph, my top end killed him.

[BullDog71ss]

Originally Posted by RedNeck383

I haven't raced an Evo yet, but I have raced a City Bus once, once we hit 60mph, my top end killed him.

Good one.

[TerminalVelocity]

1972 Datsun 240Z 9.0 16.3

2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII 4.8 13.4

see...im soo much slower than you...wanna go for it?

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by TatII

talkin about road racing. the standard EVO is too heavy, the RS is lighter, and has a helical limited slip up front. the MR has a 6 speed and bilstien shocks. however i could be wrong, do all evo's from 05 up have bilstiens? and what else did the MR come with other then the 6 speed?

I terms of performance, the only thing the MR or GSR does better than the RS is braking in certain situations with certain amateur drivers. The RS does not have ABS or EBD like the GSR and MR. Some experienced drivers prefer NOT to have ABS and for them the RS would be the weapon of choice. For most of us the ABS/EBD in the MR and GSR would be the best way for braking in the shortest distance.

For MY '04 the USDM Evo VIII RS became the first and only Evo to come from the factory with a front LSD. The next year all models had an LSD and that is still the case for the '06 IX.

The 6 speed tranny and Bilstein shocks are specific to the MR. They make for a softer ride and slightly better gas mileage on the freeway. I've never heard anybody claim they created any sort of performance advantage though. The MR also has the vortex generator, aluminum roof (so does the RS), teflon coated linkage (so does the RS) and a factory 38mm gauge "sports" cluster with boost, oil pressure and volts (so does the RS).

[youngvr4]

Originally Posted by Igovert500

My friend's ws6 pulled off a 13.1 bone stock. LS1s will walk you highway if your evo is stock.

so did this one

This was the shocker of the day. This car just may be the quickest stock Firebird of all time. And when you consider its $26,000 price tag, the cheapest of all 13 cars, the Firebird easily wins "bang for the buck" title.

How do we explain this Formula's awesome performance? How can we explain its 13.15-second ET and 108.27 mph trap speed, which is more than two-tenths of a second and 2 mph better than the Camaro? Like we said before, we can't. However, we can guess. First: weight. This Firebird is a stripper, without heavy options like power windows, power seat, etc. Second: tolerances. Sometimes they stack up and you get a faster car. Sometimes they don't.

Whatever it was, this Ram Air Pontiac ran down the track like it was born to, spitting out the most wonderful V8 baritone tune from the tree to the traps. The LS1 engine has a wonderfully flat torque curve, but it lays down at 5500 rpm, 500 revs shy of its redline. Shifting there netted us our best time.

And what sweet shifts they are.

Flatfoot shift Second and this Formula has enough grunt to lay down two 10-ft. stripes on the asphalt. You can bark the dogs in Third as well. We did miss one shift, however, when our sweaty palm slipped off the Firebird's plastic baby-butt-smooth shift knob.

Test Summary:
Firebird Formula

Base price: $23,065, Price as tested: $26,800
Engine: 5.7-liter/346.0 cu.-in. OHV 16v V8
HP: 320 @ 5200 rpm, Torque: 345 ft.-lb. @ 4400 rpm
Trans: 6M, Drivetrain: front engine/rear drive
Rear axle: 3.42:1 limited-slip
Curb weight: 3341 lb, Weight/HP ratio: 10.4
Horsepower per liter: 56.1, Tires: 275/40ZR17
Acceleration: 0-30 mph: 2.08 sec. 0-60 mph: 4.94 sec.
1/4 mile: 13.15 sec. @ 108.27 mph

[Happydude123]

The 69 would win, With some restoration and some good tuning.
And your Evolution only probably at 300 horses, while the 69 would be around 450 [with some basic add-ons].
But you would excellerate faster.
Corvettes can idle 1500 rpm while going 80 miles per hour in 6th gear.
Lots of torque.
Then comes the track, I would think the evo would beat the vette, if it was curey.

You want beat him. Add a bigger turbo new intake and get lighter pistons and rods.