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Old 11-08-2005, 08:37 AM
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Re: Re: Chevy Cobalt: Import Equivalent?

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Based on what I see at the garage, the Cobalt is a great car to get you back and forth from warranty repairs.

Come on... are we really talking about a foreign "equivalent" to a Chevy??? I own three GMs, and have owned 8 in my life, but you can't compare a Cobalt to a Subaru or Acura. GM's hurting bad and its showing up in their cars. The stockholder report shows growth after 13 years of loss, but after just spending four days with a GM designer touring SEMA, even HE's cringing for the future of GM.

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or for that matter a C5 vette... which I don't really lump together with GM anymore.

I would sooner buy an E36 bimmer with 150k over a new chevy. It will last longer and make fewer trips to the garage... AND another hundred thousand miles later when you're done with it, you still get back 75% of your investment on the bimmer, or 25% back from your Cobalt.
Ouch, harsh words for GM. I guess all the hype of the Solstice being the only the beginning of Bob "savior of general motors" Lutz designed cars wasn't entirely true.

Either way I was under the assumption that the Cobalt SS was relatively solidly built, and well engineered...not with RSX refinement, but still an E for effort

and after driving a WRX for a solid week I have to say, that car is an engine, wheels, and a seat...there is absolutely nothing else to it...its loud, its harsh, its got a crappy Mazda Protege interior....but MAN is that thing sooooo much fun to drive! I dont care about the refinement or anything when im driving it, its just so much fun to push
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:36 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Chevy Cobalt: Import Equivalent?

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Ouch, harsh words for GM. I guess all the hype of the Solstice being the only the beginning of Bob "savior of general motors" Lutz designed cars wasn't entirely true.

Either way I was under the assumption that the Cobalt SS was relatively solidly built, and well engineered...not with RSX refinement, but still an E for effort
Your last sentence is spot on... GM is hiring great designers and engineers, then not listening to a word they say. The leadership over there is not so hot. Then they're built by excellent workers who are paid way too little with quality control policies that are non-existent to say the least.
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I wouldn't mind owning a 300ZX TT... you can push 400-600hp with fairly minimal effort/cost for the performance you get. Not to mention the 4 wheel steering
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