First loss in tah bimmer

[-Josh-]

Originally Posted by TypeS

meh meh meh, haters.

How can anyone who knows anything about cars say that a 4 speed auto tranny car can't be out of powerband?

The 4L80E is a strong tranny.

[TypeS]

Haha, who said anything about it being a weak tranny? It's still only has 4 gears. And you must be an idiot if you think that an auto tranny is better from a roll.

like I said, a few mph in trap difference and that's what you get. Thanks for everyone's input!

[xXxRocker5150]

wow, well all I can say is that Type-s has never lied in the past, and I really don't see why he'd try and pull a burntrice. I think he's a credible source, and luck was in his favor when he raced the vette.

[TypeS]

Auto trannies aren't better than manuals in the straight line, unless

A, you don't know how to drive

or B, you're talking about a race from a dig. I'm not exactly sure why you're talking about stall converters since we're talking about a race from a roll.

I don't know about gear ratios in the Vette, but if 4th is overdrive, I'm guessing it probably redlines 40 in first, 80 in second and 120 in third.

If we're both going 80 and the guy floors it, he will be at the bottom of third gear. If were going 70 - 80, it's very unlikely that the car will downshift itself to 2nd for just 5 mph. Considering the car makes the most power at 5600 rpms, he would be out of powerband.

When you have a 6 speed manual tranny, it's A LOT easier to be where you want and need to be than in the 4 speed auto. Like I said, it would probably look different from a dig, or against a different Vette, but the guy wasn't just "toying around" He only probably traps 3-4 mph more than me. There's not much room for toying around.

[street_racer_00]

Originally Posted by TypeS

I don't know about gear ratios in the Vette, but if 4th is overdrive, I'm guessing it probably redlines 40 in first, 80 in second and 120 in third.

Not nessicarily...my car does 45 in 1st, 80 in 2nd, nearly 125 in 3rd, and 4th is useless....and my car is the furthest thing from a vette.

[CassiesMan]

Originally Posted by street_racer_00

I've seen an automatic C5 get on it, and they aren't world beaters...I believe you, type S.

Its a known fact that there is no car in the world that can beat an LS1 powere car. Its true. Ask any Chevy owner, any REAL Chevy owner, an LS1 cannot be beat. Evar...

I'm with Type S on this one. Good...semi kill, yeah, good semi kill.

[Habibus]

So your 3450 pound sedan with a 282 HP engine stayed with a 3246lb 350HP sports car that has better aerodynamics at higher speed? Yeah, I believe that.

[TypeS]

Actually it's heavier than that son.

Some people forget to look at the times and trap speeds of both cars. Noone cares what you believe Habibus. And wtf does "blowed" mean?

Btw, most E39 540is were underrated at 282. They actually made between 260-270 at the wheels, not that it will make much difference.

[CassiesMan]

Again...no car with an LS1 can ever be beat. Evar. The only thing that can beat an LS1 is Jesus, and even then, its a drivers race.

[2000LS1Z28]

From a roll, and against an automatic 97-00 vette, it is believeable that you kept up with him. Autos have a big time dead zone. Against a C5 with a 6 speed, and a capable driver, you'd lose by alot more then a car length though.

[TypeS]

Originally Posted by CassiesMan

The only thing that can beat an LS1 is Jesus, and even then, its a drivers race.

[TypeS]

Originally Posted by 2000LS1Z28

From a roll, and against an automatic 97-00 vette, it is believeable that you kept up with him. Autos have a big time dead zone. Against a C5 with a 6 speed, and a capable driver, you'd lose by alot more then a car length though.

Like I said, it was an auto. I'm not sure what year it was either, but it was a C5. I never said I wouldn't lose by more against a better driver with a 6 speed. I know my limits. But that's just what happened against an auto.

So the autos do have a deadzone? I knew it. No 4 speed auto can ALWAYS be within its powerband, unless you're talking about a REALLY high powered car.