new nitrous sytem

[moxion234]

jet lee-- you are almost right on except there is no nitrous bottle the air goes strain from the coil to the intake. the liquid nitrogen is at atmospheric press no chance of exploding.

[CBFryman]

so i see no apology, well that is fine...

[Jet-Lee]

ok, here's a question then, IF you did store the result in something resembling a steel scuba tank (good to about 5k+ psi), would atmospheric temperature heat it up too much and cause it to explode? I mean, like I said, CO2 is stored in liquid form, which keeps it cool, very cool. When you fill the CO2 can/tank, it is cold, but it pressurizes and finishes the process of turning it liquid. Then it only expands to gas untilt eh bottle is pressurized to certain point, holding the rest as liquid. As the CO2 leaves the bottle, the expansion of the gas causes a cooling effect. Now, is this same effect possible with liquid air? Put it in a container (drip/pour it in?), then cap it off (with a valve), then some of it will revert to gas, but will is keep the rest of it pressurized into liquid form for use later? Then, as it expands through the lines/jets, you get the same cooling effect?
This is just a though on a way to store it. So you could just pour some liquid air into your steel tank, crank the valve down really tight, then hook it back up in ur car, then you don't have to lug around a compressor, liquid nitrogen, nor the plumbing for the two, just a tank hooked up like N2O.

[moxion234]

CBF why would i apologize? you were insulting so i was insulting. the only thing im soory about is you cant take what you dish out.
and to answer questions.... yes you could store it but what i was trying to do was make a unit thaat you only have to fill every 3 weeks or so other wise whats the point? might as well just use nitrous. as far as "luggin" aroung the componets they make very small "remote" air compressors like on rvs or air ride suspesion and two bottles really isnt that much, it would be like running two NOS bottles whiich alot of pepole do beacuse nitrous runs out so quick. my whole goal is to make this cheaper,just has effective and spend less time filling/worrying about running out in the middle of a race.

[CBFryman]

i never insuleted...i told you whats what...then you though you could "School" me.... and it turns out i do know a little bit about chemistry and fluid dynamics....

[Sluttypatton]

I'm sorry I misunderstood your design, I thought that the resulting compressed air was stored in a bottle before use. It's a pity it isn't because it would be very easy to determine the density of it to some degree of accuracy if it were. I look forward to seeing some videos...I will admit I'm sceptical but I will give it a chance.

[benchtest]

Moxion,

1) Question: The Monte: is it stock? Stock air box, filter, intake, chip? (Need all 4 answers )

2) Since you stated only one nozzle was to be used (at this point anyway), I would assume it was near the throttle plate. Correct?

3) You stated that a small compressor would be used to pump the air through the coil. Well, let’s go with a big compressor (5 to 8 horses, 2 stage). Even that is only capable of 20 or so cfm at 100 psi.. Given that you are pumping air into the coil, not drawing it through, you are limited to that airflow regardless of density changes later. That’s less than 10% of the airflow required for a decent V-8. Do you believe that’s enough?

[Jet-Lee]

I say compress the air into a liquid, using your method, then store it in a tank. You dont have to carry liquid N2 in ur car then, and you can refill it yourself for the cost of a liter of liquid N2.

[moxion234]

the monte has cat back exhauhst and a home made shorty filter. the nozzle so far has been located in differnt places in the intake tract in all the test we have done how ever the one that is posted gave us the most gains positioned after the MAF about 8 in from the throttle body. also as a side note were are headed out to fill our dewar to test a new coil so there should be video up some time today as long as our guy has liquid nitrogen. im really looking forward to proving all the non belivers wrong so please check back often

[moxion234]

took some basic videos today, just don't know how to post them. anyone wanna help with that?

[noctorum]

upload them to a hosting site

[moxion234]

looking for one, just finding ones that do pictures

[noctorum]

geocities

[moxion234]

5mb upload capacity. One video is 5.73mb the other is 16.8mb. Any other sites. I'll see how much I can condense the videos, gonna have some horrible quality.

[noctorum]

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