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Re: I am NOT going to Iraq!!!!
I'm from Canada and I believe that no matter where your troops are they should be supported whether the war is justified or not, Those are sons, daughters, mothers and fathers over there, they need to know that there is a country waiting to embrace them when they get home. I don't support the war only because I don't believe that people should die when other methods of peace could be practised and when the original reasons for the war become vaguer with every passing day. I read someone say that the people of Iraq are being freed and are finally happy, but why Iraq, there are dozens of other countries that are suffering just as much. My question is how could the resources and manpower spent on freeing Iraq, could help the countries with people starving every day. I'm sorry to say it as much as I hope and pray for the safety of every American soldier in Iraq, What is the one true reason they are over there, risking their lives? If someone can answer that then please tell me.
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Re: I am NOT going to Iraq!!!!
In a word, Oil (and the contro thereof)
Coming from a military family, I don't like what Killswitch said, but, as many forget, he has the right to say it, just as you have the right to agree or disagree. I think SniperX13 said it best
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I think my ADHD would keep me out of military service (or at least the part where I get to shoot a gun). If I went into service, I'd want to be in the Coast Guard so I could bitch slap retarded illegally attepting to enter the country. Oh yeah, and a big middle finger to those douchebags who think killswitch is being "unpatriotic" for not wanting to goto Iraq.
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Everyone should join!
I believe that every ione should do a tour of duty in one of the branches of the service - kinda like Israel where everybody - man or woman does 2 years and out! I believe iot is a great character builder and teaches oneself responsiblities. I know that the gentleman at the beginning of this thread said he didn't want to go to Iraq but you know what - take a look around - we have more freedom than any other country in the world and there is price to pay for that freedom. And before anybody paints me as some kind of service dodger let me tell you I did 2 tours of duty in the heart of Vietnam and also my son-in-law is just returning from beinga machine gunner on a humvee in the heart of Bagdad!
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F*%K that, one of the great things about having freedom is having the right to choose what you want to do with your life. I will NEVER join the military unless my country is in dire need. Why because i don't believe everything has to be dealt with in a militaristic fashion. In the ideal world there would be no need to kill a single human being because of a disagreement, or (dare I say it)natural resources. Yes I know this isn't an ideal world but why do we have to fight and kill each other to reach that ideal world, what we first have to do is step back and look in the mirror at how we have gotten this freedom we have and how can it be learned to others. Having a big military is like a domino effect, You got this many troops well we'll hire this many, you got this bomb we'll make a bigger one. Why can't it be hey we are doin alright why don't we start aiding the starving children in africa. Frankly I don't care about what i'm gonna say. In Iraq Americans are dying for a reason yet untold, billions is being spent on this, all the while thousands of children die every day in poverty stricken countries. How is this fair? If America "frees" Iraq and doesn't help those who need it more. Oh yes Oil isn't an issue in those countries.
And yes as above I am Canadian and if you use that against me you are merely avoiding the issue at hand. I like most other Canadians feel sick everytime i read the newspaper and see stories about Americans getting killed, its a crying shame. I'll say it once and i'll say it again F*#k Bush |
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after i turned 18, they were after me hot and heavy. i did sign up just like everyone else has to for the selective service. but they were more geared toward putting me through college. my brother didnt sign up for it and a sargent paid him a visit! said he would face jail time if he didnt.
he signed up real quick. but thats only if there is a draft.
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i dont know about you guys, but i'm all for the "Walk softly and carry a big stick" policy. Iraq and vietnam would never have happened.
and like everyone else on the boards, we all support the troops.
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Dude, I don't want to stray off the topic, but I guess Im going to. The war isn't about oil, get a clue. The iraqi's are getting killed by terrorist groups that are trying to control the whole country. Our troops are there for a reason. And they all signed up voluntarily. They are there to free the people who are having their lives controlled by terrorists. Bush is probably the best thing that could have happened to America. F*&% John Kerry, F&*% Al Gore. Thank God for the Florida re count. If the people of Iraq don't get control back, then the terrorists will re gain control, and plan another wave of terroristic attacks against America. If we pull the troops out now, everything we have fought for over there, will be lost. I agree with the war, but it makes me sick that we are losing so many Americans, but trust me, many times more Iraqis have died. Iraqi soldiers, and innocent iraqi citizens. If your country was controlled by terrorists, would you feel the same?
"Dont send your troops to help us, because some of them may die fighting for our peace. Send your help to other countries, and let the terrorists take over our country, because this is not your war." I don't think you would say that. I think John Kerry is a jackass, he has swayed in his opinions back and forth like a damn see saw. I don't care if people think Bush is an idiot, because at least we don't have Kerry in office, proving that he isn't. That would have been the worst possible thing that could have happened on Earth, is for John Kerry to be elected. He would have ruined everything, with his indecisiveness. Sadly we live in a world where peace will not solve everything. Peace will get you rolled over by terrorists. And if killswitch doesn't want to go to Iraq, then more power to him. Because there are plenty of people who are so selfless that they would risk their own life for a different country's freedom, and if you are going to condemn George Bush for supporting that notion, then F*&% you right back. Those people deserve the chance for a free country just like ours, and if it takes the loss of some brave American soldiers who know the risks when they sign up, then God Bless them. Don't you dare talk shit about their cause for the war. They believe in something enough to risk their life over it. And until you understand why those people are willing to do that, then you should just STFU.
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Re: I am NOT going to Iraq!!!!
How bout dem Norf Kreans???
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I got home late last night and was on IM. All of the sudden my friend who left for Iraq either late December or early January IM"d me. It was so awesome to hear from him. He's in Tikrit and said he's really enjoying it over there. Gonna be sending him some dip and playboys and other crap he asked for. Just made me happy to hear that he was doing good.
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I think RickwithaTbird said it best, When I graduated from high school I was all set to join the Marines with a MP position set as my goal, My father begged me not to finish the recruiting process.. He served in the Army and did 2 tours in Vietnam. At the time when I was ready to go he was battling cancer. He had a heartfelt conversation explaining that he served his time so that his children could have a better life. For the first time in my life I saw a softer side of my father. This is a guy who I've never seen cry and puts up a tough as nails Front.. I knew at that time it wasn't right for me to leave, my Family needed me more.. I strongly support our troops, I have many friends who are overseas and if I felt my country desperately needed me, I would be signing up tomorrow!
-Jimmy
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My cousin is going over there this month, not too sure when. What will be his primary job? Convoy protection. Thats where everyone is dying, getting blown up by suicide bombers in convoys and whatnot.
Despite the shit job hes getting, hes still proud to be going over. My point? Some people want to fight, and some don't. My cousin does, I don't. Doesn't matter what you choose.
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Not fighting when it goes against every moral fiber in your body is far more noble than fighting because some douchebag tells you you aren't a man if you don't. If you truly believe in the cause, go fight- it's your right. I sincerely wish you the best. As for me, well- George W can kiss my ass.
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