Tiburon Supercharger 9psi 311whp??

[Andy Dorsett]

All the Procharger kits for Mustangs and Camaros come with the BOV. My Cobra once had the Procharger P600B and the BOV made the same type sounds when I let off the throttle that my turbo does now. The instant you let off the throttle the engine speed has not changed. It will cause a damaging boost spike at the compressor if a BOV is not used. It is not as bad as a turbo but it is still present.

The original aurgument I thought was based on the fact that you can't double engine power simply by boosting the engine with 9psi and this is true. All of the statements made by people that you can gain this much just from CAI and this much from tuning just prove the point that there is more done with the kit than just a supercharger. All of this does make you have to come to the conclusion that it is a good kit.

[CBFryman]

FYI BOV's and Diverter valves are there to prevent compresser surger. ie the compressor spinning backwards due to the continueation of boost after the throttle body has closed and the engine speed has droped. this makes the turbo stop and spin backwards. not only does this hurt the turbo bearings but it also makes the turbo have to completely respool when you get back on the gas. it can do this because a turbo is ocmpletely independent of the engine. the turbo is spinning, it will want to keep spinning untill something stops it form spinning (ya know that weird thing they where talking about in physics called newtons 1st law of motion things at rest tend to stay at rest and things in motion tend to stay in motion unles acted upon by an outside force) a BOV will keep the turbo spinning as fast as posible. because a supercharger's speed is completely related to engine speed it cant continue spinning at the previous speed and air flow always matches engine speed needs.

[Andy Dorsett]

A divertor or bypass system is a BOV that vents back into the system as opposed to venting to atmosphere. Why does Procharger supply a "Bosch surge/bypass system" with all of their kits? Why did my Procharged Cobra make the "bypass" sound when I let off the throttle? You at the point now where you are going to have to admit the BOV has a use with a centrifugal supercharger or all of the following:
1. Call me a liar and tell me I didn't hear the sound or it was something else.
2. Say you know more than Procharger and they really don't need a bypass system with their kits.

[kwik26]

CBFryman I can't even count the number of straight up mistakes you made in your post. You are just wrong about several things.

First thing, the RIPP stage 2 setup comes with a fuel tuner, that is tuned. So they do include fuel tuning in their setup, you accused them of not including it. Their 311hp claim is WITH FUEL TUNING. Learn to pay attention to the details.

Also, if you are at 6500rpm with a SC then let off the gas the engine does not come to a screeching halt at under 2000rpm, it is still turning at 6500rpm and it slows down, the compressor is still turning and still making boost and that boost needs to be regulated and released otherwise you would be damaging the compressor and blowing fittings off the thing. You obviously don't understand very well how engines and more importantly how SCs work, because you have made alot of just straight up wrong posts.

I suggest you study up a little more before posting.

[kwik26]

Originally Posted by CBFryman

as for your 170hp. that is 170bhp. BRAKE HORSE POWER. as in TO THE CRANK.

Do you have a reading problem, I said with intake headers exhaust it is making 170 WHEEL HP, that is TO THE WHEELS, I said WHEEL HP several times, but you apparently missed it.

With I/H/E the Tib makes 195 BHP, you know, to the crank, and 170 WHP you know, to the wheels! This is what I said, and this is what I meant. The RIPP setup is 9psi on top of a car with I/H/E already, then it is adding fuel tuning and alcohol with raises octane.

Read my posts before commenting on them, you are so very confused.

[CBFryman]

On that page, nowhere does it say it comes with a fule tuner. You seem like an internet rice boy. You get all of your information from reading sapposed information form sites such as RIPP. taking it as fact. i am not flaming. just what it seems like. I have yet to see you use any numbers involving compressor efficency. But w/e. Im tired of argueing with an uneducated un experenced brick wall. I do accept the fact that you did say intake, exaust and headers. though none of this is included in the RIPP kit.

[kioplo]

chris stfu you lose quit arguing....they had headers on that car...i dont think they had I/E...and the intake is just the filter hooked up to the blower...

[CBFryman]

Muhahahaha. Lets see here Kioplo. you live in Lake City and drive an '04 Tiburon. Wait Wait. let me geuss. its GT v6 5 speed. Black. gray pin stripes. you attend CHS and are in the 11th grade. You lick kwik26's anus and your name is Jonathan. your have honors chemistry in Mrs Mac's 1st period class. AM i correct or no?
You f***ing moron. are you going to get headers on your car. no. are you going to get that kit at all. no. does the kit come with headers. no. we are talking about just hte kit alone. I still say RIPP is full of shit.
PS
where the hell did yo uget Kioplo from?

[kioplo]

your wrong....i dont have any pin stripes on my car..wtf where did that come from? and to get the kit you have to get headerss...

[kioplo]

and even though the facts say yes..you stil say no...lol youre an idiot, and need to learn more about S/C and F/I......

[CBFryman]

I thought you did. You where talling me something about pinstripes or something that you though looked gay. and of the times ive seen it only once has been during the day. Anyway, where does it say you have to get headers. a kit that expensive should be all inclusive.

[CBFryman]

Originally Posted by kioplo

and even though the facts say yes..you stil say no...lol youre an idiot, and need to learn more about S/C and F/I......

Like you do know about s/c and force induction?

[kioplo]

it says it like up at the top or something...idk read it

[kioplo]

yeah at the very top lol...you havent even read that page

[CBFryman]

you know you can edit your posts....