a slap in the face for you chumpstang guys

[drvngstorm05]

Originally Posted by 94CamaroZ28

yeah, thats also true. There has never been a yeah that the Cobra was Faster than the SS.

for '04 the SVT is now supercharged so that one would prolly beat an ss, but hey if camaros were still being made i'm sure chevy would have somethin that could rape the supercharged cobra.

[89IROC&RS]

well to be fair, the Z28 is the cobra model, GT is kinda their RS if im correct.

[94CamaroZ28]

No... if you go off of most automitve magazines (including consumer reports) the Z28 is always put up against the GT, and the SS is always put up against the Cobra. As for 2004, your right, the new mustang is supposed to have some balls. The closest thing you could compare it to is the new GTO since it has the LS1 engine, and as far as I know the GTO is faster. Its sad to say that Chevy is using the LS1 for that SSR that really isn't that fast due to its weight... and its ugly. But there is the new Chevelle coming out...

[4onFloor]

is this new chevelle supposed to be a front wheel drive by any chance? i sure hope not. GM pretty much ruined the malibu. When i worked at a chevy dealership the malibu was always the last car to leave the lot cause no one wanted em. as for the whole mustang-camaro deal, i can personally attest the mustangs dont get shit for traction compared to camaros. between the narrower wheel base and the higher stance they suck. a guy that i do construction with owns a 92 gt i think it is, and he can stomp it goin 30mph and go sideways, and he has 2:73 or something close to that for a rear end. try doin that with a camaro, not gonna happen they get such better traction. i recently installed 3:73's with a locker rear end in my friends camaro, and he's makin a little over 300hp with the 350 we built, and when he hits it off the line it spins for about 8 or 10 feet and goes, and he's runnin 0-60 in around 5 1/2 secs. now wet streets that's a little different, fun but different

[85GT]

Originally Posted by SniperX13

and his being stupid on wet ground, breaking traction, and being unable to correct his mistake is all due to the car being a ford..... 300hp at the rear on a 88 means there must be sone nice work done to it, so he should have known better. a chevy would fair no better.

I agree with you sniper,on wet pavement going up a ramp. I'd say he got on it in the wrong spot,and then he lost control. sounds like human error to me!!

[85GT]

Originally Posted by 89IROC&RS

yeah man, i was pissed at the latest hotrod magazine, bashing online forums for being narrow minded and hatefull, i was trying to argue against it, but threads like this make it so hard. dont get me wrong, i personally hate mustangs, but the fact it was a ford aint why he crashed, probly why the rear end was nocked out though my two camaros have been through alot worse than hitting a guard rail, and i can still drive them just about anywhere, and drove them home from every incident. if your gonna joke the stang, then joke it for coming apart in peices from a mild crash, not cuz your buddy dont know how to drive.

Why do you hate fords I don't hate chevy's, as a matter a fact i'm looking to buy a I-ROC or z28 for my wife, to go along with my mustang!
Which I put some work into restoreing,brand new 5.0 40 over, edlebrock
intake and carb 650. Rebuilt 283 heads. And much more. But I hope to do some mods to the chevy.You know if you drove for awhile you would love it!!! No big deal.

[94CamaroZ28]

I don't know any of the specs on the new Chevelle. I have only see pictures of the concept. It looks pretty nice from the side, but the front looks bad. Its the same type of front as the SSR.
As for you guys who are upset about hating Fords... Its all fun and games. You have to talk trash, thats half the fun.

[85GT]

Not upset here.Just having fun.

[89IROC&RS]

just personal taste man, i dont hate guys who drive fords, shit my dad drives a 1996 taurus SHO with the V8 that will beat my RS in a race. but i personally dont like driving it because of how its laid out, honestly i dont really like driving the fourth gen camaros either, but i love the camaros, so they get grandfathered in but i have driven the stangs, and never drove one i liked. thats why i dont like them. they just dont feel right to me. i dont like how they are laid out, how they handle, or how they drive in general, just personal preference.

[94CamaroZ28]

Of course it comes down to preference. We all know that with the right resources and knowlege you can make any car fast. So I guess the only way we can compare cars is what they are stock, but we all can't afford McLarens.

[85GT]

You know I would drive both. I like both,I like cutlass and old firebirds,Roadrunners! Had friends who owned these cars and I had a chance to drive them,back in the mid to late 70's.Iowned the cutlass!

[Genopsyde]

I like Yugo's

[85GT]

Really.....when is the last time you saw a yugo? How about...........a Le Car!

[housy_bigmike]

haha - le car - i just saw one the other day, actually. i looked to my friend and sed "haha - it's a box on wheels"

[85GT]

Try working on them!!! If you actually get up close to one if there is any left? Check out the exhaust system that runs down the drivers side. You'll get a good laugh!!