the hells with these religion wars?!

[MBTN]

Hey fool, I said the people who wrote the bible believed the earth was flat et cetera. I didn't say they wrote it IN the bible. And I did not say your "god" is a murderer, I said the people who kill each other DO IT FOR him. PEOPLE KILL ONE ANOTHER FOR THEIR "GOD". Isn't that fucked up? What if I killed you for something that is a mental image, and not even real? Totally unproven, yet totally believed in. Driving people to do anything for it. It's a sickness. It happens everyday. All for "god". Now that's pathetic.

[1989 DX R]

Uhhh....


Let me say, that the actual numbers of people who do shit like that are perhaps .0001% of the actual numbers of the members of a religion.

Dont let one small group fuck everything up.

[MBTN]

What were the crusades? What were the terrorist bombers thinking when they killed 5000 areican civilians? "We are going to Allah!" All the bloodshed. All for "god". What a shame....

[whttrshpunk]

PEOPLE KILL ONE ANOTHER FOR THEIR "GOD".

Your blaming a system of beliefs for the actions of a few. That's bigotry. Just like someone who gets robbed by a black man, then thinks all black people are bad. I don't hate muslims by any means, the Islamic faith is similar to Judeo-Christianity in some respects, mainly differing on the deity of Y'shua and also, Islam is focused slightly more on works than Christianity. People have done things in the name of a religion, or a god, throughout history. Most people only focus on those commited in the name of Christ, and recently the acts of claimed muslims. Not everyone who professes a faith practices it to its fullest.

Let me clarify on a previous post. Abraham fathered 2 children, Isaac and Ishmael. They each had a different mother. Ishmael's mother was Hagar, who slept with Abraham with the approval of his wife Sarah, to fulfill Yahweh's promise to Abraham that his descendents would be like the sand on the sea shore. Yahweh however, did intend for Sarah to bear the child, even at her late age. There was always enmity between the brothers, and it still exists today between the Jews and the arabs.

[NismoDrifts]

Yeah, that clarification is exactly what ive always heard, so, yeah

and the bigotry thing is right too, and such conflicts will always occur for as long as someone thinks differently from another

[1989 DX R]

So...MBTN...you dont believe in any sort of higher power? You think everything just *poof* worked out so that we, humans become intelligent/sentient? Do you think your ancestors were monkeys?? I for one refuse to belive that i am related to a monkey.

[Moppie]

Originally posted by 1989 DX R
I for one refuse to belive that i am related to a monkey.

Try telling that to a biologoy professor. Or for that matter one of your maths prof's.

[taranaki]

Originally posted by Moppie


Try telling that to a biologoy professor. Or for that matter one of your maths prof's.

Quote from my biology tutor(circa 1976)

"Those people who refuse to accept the theory of evolution are themselves a living example of something from which we have evolved."

(Or words to that effect.I forget exactly.It was 25 years ago)I like the quote,but it seems to be the antithesis of the 'God made it all,read your Bible'

[1989 DX R]

Hehehe, thats just my sarcastic answer to in your face evolutionists. The way i see it, is that we did evolve, but when it says 7 days in the Bible, its probably 7 long-ass time periods. The way the Bible was written was that people who had never been more than 5 miles from their homes could grasp big ideas without getting overwhelmed by the scale of creation and all that and saying "aw fuckit"

[YogsVR4]

The big bang was God fucking the universe and sitting back to see what happens next.

[enginerd]

C'mon people, if religion didn't give us an excuse to kill one another we'd have to go through all the trouble of finding other reasons.

By the way, there's a cool billboard in my town that just went up: I was serious about that no killing thing : God

[MBTN]

Ever hear of the Crusades? Wasn't that a massive movement where millions were murdered by Christians? Doesn't that contradict their religion "Thou shal not kill"? I beleive it does! What's been happening in the "holiest" place on Earth for hundreds of years? Hmm. All that because people can't settle religious differences...

I reiterate: The same people who wrote the bible thought the earth was flat. They thought the earth was the center of the universe. People who opposed were executed, exiled et cetera. 100's of years later, they were right all along. Go fig.

" Hehehe, thats just my sarcastic answer to in your face evolutionists. The way i see it, is that we did evolve, but when it says 7 days in the Bible, its probably 7 long-ass time periods. The way the Bible was written was that people who had never been more than 5 miles from their homes could grasp big ideas without getting overwhelmed by the scale of creation and all that and saying "aw fuckit" "

Very true. These people (who wrote the bible) were also wrong then about pretty much anything they wrote. Sience has proved so much since. Hell, the Bible contradicts itself over and over. These people also didn't know how to explain certain events, so they said it came from "God". They didn't know what "God" was. They used the name "God" to strike fear in those who do wrong. "You're going to Hell because you are bad. God doesn't like you. You have sinned..." "God" was a way to keep people in line and under control. People were stupid back then, they didn't know what the hell was going on.

After life, yes, I believe we go "poof" as you say it. What happens before life? You didn't feel, you didn't see, you didn't think before you were existed, so why should after your existence be the same? I've read everyone's posts in this topic. And I take them seriously (hence my responses). I hope you read mine. Some of my responses are opinionated, others are factual: The Crusades, all the VIOLENCE. It was all for ones belief in God. Why believe in Christianity (or any other religion for that matter) when I can believe in the truth of science?

[YogsVR4]

You may also remember that science has proved itself wrong on many many occasions too. So blind faith in science is also misplaced.

[whttrshpunk]

These people (who wrote the bible) were also wrong then about pretty much anything they wrote. Sience has proved so much since. Hell, the Bible contradicts itself over and over

I think it would interesting to hear a few examples of this. What did the Bible say the science has misproven? And no, so-called scientific theories like the crap you hear on TLC doesn't count.On what points did the Bible contradict itself?

Ever hear of the Crusades? Wasn't that a massive movement where millions were murdered by Christians?

Once again, you're blaming a religion for the actions of the crusaders. If the beliefs were the problem, then why haven't I been on a killing spree lately? It was the people, they were misguided. Even if there was no such thing as Christianity, the crusades, or something similar would have happened. What about the holocaust? Are all socialists genocidal murderers? Nope. I don't agree with them, but that doesn't mean I have to accuse them of all being part of some anti-jew conspiracy because of what Hitler did.The nazi's did not define socialism, neither do the crusades define Christianity.I'm going to bed now because I'm sleepy and I'm not making any sense!

[Moppie]

Originally posted by whttrshpunk

I'm not making any sense!

Please dont take this personaly, but that is one of the smartest things I have heard a dedicated christian say.