Nissan 350SX.......what????

[VQuick]

Originally Posted by RalphCare

how about we take the QR25DE from the specV.... slap the JDM QR20DE crankshaft to lower the displacement and allow for higher redline and tweaked power band. give the engine a wilder cam... an throw on a t28 for good measure. this CAN pass emissions and it would be a crazy engine if they could put it in a new s16..

That means more development time and costs, which will be passed on to the consumer. We want something affordbable, remember?

The VQ25DET already exists and is more than capable of producing the power a Silvia would require. In fact, it would probably have to be detuned to keep from cannibalizing Z sales.

[mxd6]

[color=sienna]TheLogikal1 - please keep your rude comments to yourself and quite being the FOOL of the form. If you have something constructive to say or don't add your foolishness and rude smart ass comment to my posts.

I used to chase guys like you home after school.

There is always a Mr. Know it all smart ass trying to get attention everywhere he goes. No logic your to I'm sorry to say.

And your comments are all incorrect my I add.

[stealthj]

Originally Posted by mxd6

[color=sienna]TheLogikal1 - please keep your rude comments to yourself and quite being the FOOL of the form. If you have something constructive to say or don't add your foolishness and rude smart ass comment to my posts.

I used to chase guys like you home after school.

There is always a Mr. Know it all smart ass trying to get attention everywhere he goes. No logic your to I'm sorry to say.

And your comments are all incorrect my I add.

but he was high, so its all good

its justified

[AWDSR20]

he he he he .... it all good....

keep it cool...

[J_Spec_NiTeMaRe]

Originally Posted by mxd6

[color=sienna]TheLogikal1 - please keep your rude comments to yourself and quite being the FOOL of the form. If you have something constructive to say or don't add your foolishness and rude smart ass comment to my posts.

I used to chase guys like you home after school.

There is always a Mr. Know it all smart ass trying to get attention everywhere he goes. No logic your to I'm sorry to say.

And your comments are all incorrect my I add.

Cry me a river. He was correct in every single thing he stated. Everything. If you can't deal with being FACED(beeitch), then do some research. And change your font color.

The Silvias are done, just like the GT-R, just like the Supra, just like the FD3S, and most other turboed Japanese exotics. This isn't even new news people. Wake up and read the news. Japan recently passed tougher emissions laws that made it nearly impossible for alot of the sports cars to comply, so most of them were discontinued. There will be no "S16," at least not in the traditional SR20 sense. The SR20 is over 10 years old now, older than the RB26 I believe.


It's all about the money(its all about the dum, diddyshootme). Nissan does not in fact owe us anything. It gave the world the GT-R. They could decide to never produce another car again, and they would still not owe us shit because it gave us such wonderful machinery. Im way too high and way too tired to argue with newbies. Nighty night.


*edit: Oh, by the way, this isn't YOUR post. Just because you created it doesn't mean you own it. Igor does. Him and Brian are the only people who can tell someone to not post. AF is an open board. kthx.

[Soyo]

wow this thread is gonna end up being as long as the whore thread with all this arguing and talk about things that will never happen...

[1viadrft]

The Silvia has already been discontinued along with the (TRUE) Skyline because of new emission standards in Japan... no more turbocharged cars in its lineup. Bringing back the Silvia as an S16 with the 3.5 liter QR35DE seems unlikely to me with the newer 350z/Fairlady and G35/V35 Skyline in the mix. It would not be a true Silvia with such a big heavy engine.
What we need (and what we really want) is another RWD Inline 4 from Nissan... Turbocharged or not!!! But with all these FAST&FURIOUS kids wanting FWD type Civic-cars... our only affordable 4-banger is gonna be the Spec-V SER Sentra. NISSAN!!! Give us what we non-juvenile mature guys want-!

[spitz7985]

2005 Mazdaspeed Miata

what more could you ask for?

[mrflip69]

Originally Posted by spitz7985

2005 Mazdaspeed Miata

what more could you ask for?

No thanks... LOL

Sorry, gotta stick with Nissan. Isn't there a supercharger/twin-turbo kit for the 350z already? Yum. How bout that AWD G35 that uses the modified Skyline ATTESSA system? Too bad it's only on the Sedan?... (even funnier when you smoke someone)

[VQuick]

Originally Posted by J_Spec_NiTeMaRe

It's all about the money(its all about the dum, diddyshootme). Nissan does not in fact owe us anything. It gave the world the GT-R.

Nissan gave Japan the GT-R. Most other folks in Australia and Europe were fortunate enough to get some as grey imports. The UK only got about 50 per year. Under Carlos Ghosn however, the next GT-R will be sold globally. Everyone wins.

Originally Posted by 1viadrft

The Silvia has already been discontinued along with the (TRUE) Skyline because of new emission standards in Japan... no more turbocharged cars in its lineup. Bringing back the Silvia as an S16 with the 3.5 liter QR35DE seems unlikely to me with the newer 350z/Fairlady and G35/V35 Skyline in the mix. It would not be a true Silvia with such a big heavy engine.

What we need (and what we really want) is another RWD Inline 4 from Nissan... Turbocharged or not!!!

True Skylines are sporty sedans and coupes. The V35 and CPV35 are still very much true Skylines. In fact, they are probably among the best Skylines ever.

A VQ35DE-powered S16 obviously wouldn't make sense. That's why there are smaller displacements already available, ranging from 2L, 2.5L, and 3L, with 3.3L and 3.2L hybrids that can be custom built by swapping parts. Like I said earlier, the 2.5L variant would be perfect. Smaller than the 350Z engine, yet powerful enough in its own right. In fact, the displacement is probably 24xxcc, so the S16 could technically be called the 240SX again.

Fyi, the VQ would weigh about as much as the KA, probably less. Mounted longitudinally for rwd, it would actually provide better weight distribution than an I4.

The QR25 will be starting rwd duty as the base engine in the '05 Frontier, but is still unsuitable for a sporting application like the Silvia. The QR20 is more fitting, but it may not have the torque to move a vehicle based on the heavy FM platform.

On the other hand the VQ revs eagerly, makes plenty of torque, and is quite capable in NA or turbo form. Additionally, the turbo VQs already in production are still emissions compliant.

[1viadrft]

All your views have good points... but it will not happen my friend (S16 or RWD affordable 240-like car). Not here in America anyhow... we get stuck with all the bratty FWD or high-priced sedans. We get lucky if we get the 350z/G35 over here but those are not the Silvia's/240's/prices that we had back in the day. There is no between.
As for an inline VQ (don't they have these already?) or QR in a car... this seems again very unlikely... we got stuck with the fwd NA SR20 in the Sentra and 200sx and never got the Turbo rwd SR20 back in the day. Although we did get the underdog KA motor in our USDM 240. America wants non-gas-guzzling FWD cars... Look what happend with the Corrolla!
However, I do hope we get what you and I want! Maybe we should petition to Nissan... huh, guys-??
---1viadrft

[1viadrft]

VQuick,
.... and by the way: the true Skyline is the GTR! From the beginning!

---1viadrft

[Fliquer]

Let me clue a few of you guys in on US market trends and how they affected sports cars:

In the early 90s, gas prices were at an all-time low and people were gobbling up SUVs by the thousands. However the recent market fall steered many car buyers toward practicality vs fun. The late 80s were a period where high-end sports cars (ie ferrari, porsche, vette) did not offer the performance or reliability that their prices reflected. With their image severely jaded, the downward spiral of sportscar sales had begun.

The svx, RX-7 and 300zx were dopped by the end 96 with the 240sx following shortly afterwards. This is why we didnt get the S15 over here. (and we didnt get the turbo motor earlier because it would have competed with the NA 300zx - which had been a strong seller for nissan for the previous decade).

Today however, gas prices are staying high and suv sales, while still strong, are declining. Most baby boomers are going through their mid-lif-crisis'. Generation Y (characterized by highly intelligent, enterprising, hardworking youth) is reaching first-new-car age, and with the recent growth of the street-racing/drift culture many are determined to buy sporty cars. America is experiencing a rebirth of the sports car, and nissan knows this.

It would be pure insanity for nissan to not be planning a cheap rwd pocketrocket (read ORIGINAL silvia, not the S15) in the next 4 years.

[1viadrft]

Fliquer,
I agree that's what we all want and what Nissan and other Companies should do. Make affordable RWD sports cars! However, if you look at Mistubishi's LanEvo8 (albight a little expensive and AWD), even though it's been crowned Car of the Year... sales aren't going so well. Sports cars are just making it in the market. Maybe (and hopefully) we are in a great transition from FWD and Expensive Sports to an affordable RWD package. I'm just merely stating that this seems unlikely with all the affordable cars being FWD Civics, Sentras, Cavaliers, Neons and EXPENSIVE 350s, G35s, RX8s just barely making it. Hopefully I am wrong, sir.

---1viadrft

[Fliquer]

350zs are selling very very well, and at 26k I wouldnt say they are expensive at all. Evos are selling so well that mitsu is considering bringing in the RS model sometime next year.