rb 35?? wah the .........

[200sx]

praise the lord, no realy praise the lord, can any body find the addres of the nissan head office, maybe we could send them some signatures in

[Dylan_Michael]

TT V-6= Twin Turbo V-6. The current plan is the new Maxima (2002) 3.5L V-6 twin turboed.

[R35]

AHA! Somewhere else they were talking about the Audi "TT" and I got that confused with TwinTurbo:P Doh!

Ya just about anything V is US friendly, but it would take away from the Torque.

As I recall and inline 6 is a bit louder than a V-6, but it also has more potential down the road. I-6 is a bit heavier, but can put out more than many V-8's.

So going with a V-6 is worse than going with a V-8.

[200sx]

exactly my point, why change the fucking car to a maxima or what ever they want to do

[VQuick]

Originally posted by R35USA
As I recall and inline 6 is a bit louder than a V-6, but it also has more potential down the road. I-6 is a bit heavier, but can put out more than many V-8's.
So going with a V-6 is worse than going with a V-8.

Yeah, but going with an award-winning V6 that has already in production for several years is better than trying to develop a brand new I6. Could Nissan even make an I6 from aluminum that would rival the VQ in weight savings over the RB? Maybe. Would they? I very seriously doubt it.
One advantage of the V6 is that in just the 3.0 tt version, power is rated at 276hp. It already matches the RB26DETT. Again, both engines are probably putting out around 300hp or higher. Imagine if Nassan takes the 3.5L and adds the tt system. It would definitely have an edge.
Another advantage is that the VQ is much more compact. Take a long engine like the RB or any other I6, and guess what? You need a long engine bay to put it in. Long engine bay=longer frame=more materials=more weight!
The last one thing I'll mention in the V8 vs. VQ vs. RB debate is that the VQ and V8 have already been emissions tested, certified, etc. All the red tape with the gub'ment is already taken care of. Even if the problem of the lhd conversion with the RB didn't exist, Nissan would still have to wade through all the testing all over again to get the RB approved. And if Nissan somehow came up with an aluminum I6 that weighed the same as or less than the VQ and V8, it would have to go through all the testing too.

Bottom line is, the RB ain't comin' to the US. Deal with it!

[koh]

But then Motorex legalized the r32/r33/r34 skyline for the u.s., and some place close to compton sells RB26DETTs, so what's so hard about bringing RB26DETTs here?

[SkylineUSA]

I think he is refering to it being mass produced here in the states, but that is the cool thing. I can crate a couple of those engines over here and throw them into a 240Z or something like that and have one quick little car.:flash:

[200sx]

OK , maybe 276hp out of the factory, but remember the rb is the ultimate tunning engine i do not think that that V6 you are talking about could possily handle 700++++ horse power for much of a time period if it could possibly be tuned to those amounts of power

[R35]

Yup, that was my point. In the long run an Inline enging can produce more power and torque than a V. It's not how much it can do from the factory, but how much is it capable of doing period.

The amount of mods that people throw into a Skyline would kill a V6 or V8 engine or even worse make the car so unstable it wouldn't be any fun to drive anymore Who wants that?

[SkylineUSA]

Well said R35USA,

There is a point were you can have too much power. That does depend on the person driving. My limit will be 550, anything more than that would be asking for trouble, like breakdowns or tickets. I figure I'll be getting my fair share at 550, why press the subject.

[VQuick]

Don't forget about that. It's been the biggest obstacle in getting the Skyline here in the first place. So even if Nissan cared enough about all the people who wanted to mod their Skylines to keep the RB, guess what? We still wouldn't get it here, because the conversion can't be done! And then R35USA would have to change his name to R35JPN or something like that.

I never said that the RB isn't capable of more power and torque. I know that it is. But at least with the V6 or V8, we'll get a Skyline here. Something is better than nothing. How many people even have the cash to tune their Skylines up to 800+hp, especially after shelling out the money to buy one? Not many. There's a lot of folks who will realize that the V6 or V8 can give them the power they want, within a realistic scope. Not everyone needs to be zooming around in 1,300hp Skylines killing themselves.

[SkylineUSA]

They can keep the rb, since it does meet EPA standards, if it did not MotorEx would not be allowed to sell the car here in the states.

I really do not care what engine is in the Skyline, just bring it over at an affordable price, so we can all be happy, although I would prefer it to be an RB26DETT, but I would take it with a 4cyl engine if I had to. Just put one of those bad boys in my driveway. Don't get me wrong, I like the power aspect of the car, but when it comes right down to it, I love the way the car looks.

[Morpheus XIII]

RB35? Thats odd, I always thought the RB line of motors was designed to have displacements smaller than other 6-cylinder cars so that it would excel in certain classes of racing. Wouldnt a 3.5L motor defeat the purpose of the RB design?

About the comparison between V6s and inline-6s, lets not forget that it's much more difficult for the aftermarket to turbocharge V designs because there are 2 separate exhaust manifolds; you would always need to have 2 whistlers (of course you could have 1 plus a whole mess of plumbing, but generally that setup is inefficient for both boost and space). When it comes down to flat-out horsepower, 1 large turbo will always do a better job than 2 smaller ones, even though driveability is sacrificed...so I suppose the best engine choice would depend on ones needs.

[VQuick]

You don't have to worry about an aftermarket turbo version of the V6. It's available with a tt system in Japan from the factory! And Jim Wolf Technology has already done a single turbo system as well.
And as I've been saying, the main problem with the RB has been the conversion to left hand drive. Emissions are fine, Motorex was able to fix that problem, as well as reconfiguring the ECU to handle the lower octane gas we have here.
The other thing is, inline 6 cylinders don't always make the most torque. Believe it or not, the 2L turbo Lancer Evo VII makes more torque than the 3.3L I6 in the E46 M3. With almost an additional liter more displacement(3.5L vs. 2.6), the turbocharged V6 shouldn't have too much of a problem meeting people's realistic performance expectations.

[VQuick]

You don't have to worry about an aftermarket turbo version of the V6. It's available with a tt system in Japan from the factory! And Jim Wolf Technology has already done a single turbo system as well.
And as I've been saying, the main problem with the RB has been the conversion to left hand drive. Emissions are fine, Motorex was able to fix that problem, as well as reconfiguring the ECU to handle the lower octane gas we have here.
The other thing is, inline 6 cylinders don't always make the most torque. Believe it or not, the 2L turbo Lancer Evo VII makes more torque than the 3.3L I6 in the E46 M3. With almost an additional liter more displacement(3.5L vs. 2.6), the turbocharged V6 shouldn't have too much of a problem meeting people's realistic performance expectations.