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Old 12-26-2001, 10:48 AM   #31
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I can't believe how many 7GEN Civic haters there are. Why is everyone bitchin about the suspension and engine. Hell its not like you can't modify it, everyone else does it to their older civics. I'm actually kinda dissapointed that I bought a 2001 Civic because they have done major updates to the 2002 model.


The newer civics make LESS hp from mods as the older engiens do.... trust me, Honda is getting further away from the enthusiat...

The newer civics are the cream of the crap.... I'd take a 4th or 5th gen before a 7th anyday... if I'm gonna spend $$ to mod my car, I'm gonna get what I can out of it.. and the new civics blow for mods.
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Old 12-26-2001, 12:03 PM   #32
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Well look at the new Civics: 1. Not made for performance {Hell no Civic is really made for major performance} 2. There are ways to get the level of performance you want, look at all the high performance 7GEN's in all the magazines, but you have to have the cash to support it. BTW, the NEW Civics haven't been out for very long, so I don't think there would be a huge aftermarket for them yet, DUH. 3. What was the original pupose for the Honda Civic? To be a reliable, quality built, economy car. If you want performance with alot of mods, go buy a Mustang or a Camaro.

My purpose for this thread was to get some feedback on what the consumer thought of this car. Not to bash it for low performance.

In case you want to know where you can find a list of 7Gen Civic performance parts, I have a link right here.

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Old 12-26-2001, 12:12 PM   #33
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OK let me explain again...this time I'll mak eit easier for you to understand.

DC sports makes a header for the 7th Gen DX, right? OK, well the 7th gen DX header gains LESS HP/TQ than one for a 4th or 5th gen.

It is harder to squeeze power from the newer engines. Period. Any moron with enough $$$ can make a 7th gen fast. High performance? Are you reading Superstreet again? I am yet to see a FAST 7th Gen civic, if one even exists.

And if you wanna say "well if you want performance, why buy a civic bla bla bla" ok, then answer me. Why are you modding a car that is ONLY (in your words) intended to be reliable, econimical etc...

Why don't you go buy a mustang?

Quite frankly, I'd rather get a better looking, older, more moddable, and more aftermarket friendly 4th or 5th gen thatn a new 7th gen. Heavy, slow, hard to mod, expensive to get ANY power from. Yeah, that's my ideal tuner car Guess I should get a Mustang huh?
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Old 12-26-2001, 05:01 PM   #34
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I don't care to make my car into some high performance hot rod. My car is fine how it is, stock. I don't care if the performance products are as good for the new Civics as compared to the old ones, It does not matter to me. I thought that I made that clear, and also that anyone with money can make just about anything fast. I do not care if no one has yet to make a 7Gen as good as any of the past models. Why are you arguing with me? I have absolutely no intentions to mod my car, so don't say "why are you {in your words} modding a car that is supposed to be blah blah blah."

You like so many idiots on this site completely miss every point anyone tries to make. If you want to mod a Civic, go out and get whatever one you want, if you do not feel that 7Gens aren't that great than don't. How ridiculous are you? Don't bitch to me, especially when its something that I've have said time and time again that I DO NOT care about. Do you understand that? I can say it in French, German, Russian, hell Swahili. You need to start comprehending people's points before you start jumping all over them.
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Thumbs up hey liubei

:smoka: hey liu, i've got a 7th gen and i'm totally diggin it... i have to agree with ya that if it's gonna be modded anyway, why not buy a newer sleaker civic that, with the right mods per the owner's choice, can look just as tight or clean as an older civic... i've had both and the only thing i miss about my '94 is that the aftermarket parts were cheaper in comparison and more abundant in variety. but that's just the way it is with new cars... eventually there will be so much sheitt out for the 7th gen that it won't be an issue:smoka:
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Old 12-27-2001, 09:07 AM   #36
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Guess he missed your point as well, huh?

I guess you NEVER said anything about 7th gen Civics, and performance then eh?
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You are far and beyond the dumbest person I've met on this site. You are just some little punk kid that wants to start something.

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I don't care to make my car into some high performance hot rod. My car is fine how it is, stock. I don't care if the performance products are as good for the new Civics as compared to the old ones, It does not matter to me. I thought that I made that clear, and also that anyone with money can make just about anything fast. I do not care if no one has yet to make a 7Gen as good as any of the past models. Why are you arguing with me? I have absolutely no intentions to mod my car, so don't say "why are you {in your words} modding a car that is supposed to be blah blah blah."

You like so many idiots on this site completely miss every point anyone tries to make. If you want to mod a Civic, go out and get whatever one you want, if you do not feel that 7Gens aren't that great than don't. How ridiculous are you? Don't bitch to me, especially when its something that I've have said time and time again that I DO NOT care about. Do you understand that? I can say it in French, German, Russian, hell Swahili. You need to start comprehending people's points before you start jumping all over them.

You seemed to have missed this entire statement.
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You are far and beyond the dumbest person I've met on this site. You are just some little punk kid that wants to start something.
You seemed to have missed this entire statement.
You act as if that statemen tis the only one you've made on thsi thread. Any jackass can come into the end of a discussion and change his points and views on things, and make him or herself not look as bad. Throughtout the thread, you were referring to the Civic from a performance standpoint, and once somebody stepped up and said they the 7th gen eats a dick for performance, you immediately went on thedefensive, and tried the "oh I don't care about performance" bullshit.

If you didn't, why the hell are you on this site?

Little punk kid huh? Actually no, I didn't START anything, I merely pointed out a FACT, in which I stated, "the 7th Gen Civic is NOT a good car by ANY means from a performance standpoint."

You immediately took offense to that.

waaaa, my car is just an economy car, I don't care about performance, waaaaaa....

Why else would you have a list of performance parts for the 7th gen, if you didn't give two shits about performance???

Punk kid my ass....

You just hate the fact that you bought the cream of the crap when it comes to Civics. So go ahead and be pissed off at me, call me names. I am obviously the dumbest person on here huh? Whatever dude, get a clue....
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Old 12-29-2001, 06:35 AM   #39
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i don't really like them. Maybe I haven't seen enough to make up my mind. By the way I'm stationed at Tyndall AFB
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The 5-door hatch is excellent, good lloking, fast, VERY roomy (Like a mini-MPV), and the most reliable car I have seen, its only let-down is handling

The sedan however is less pleasing, frumpy, slow, cramped and less practical

The Coupe is hideous (But I wouldn't expect much better from an American design studio these days)
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yea i like the civic when they were sportier and the iVTEC isnt very modable (hmm is that a word?)
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hey liu, i've got a 7th gen and i'm totally diggin it... i have to agree with ya that if it's gonna be modded anyway, why not buy a newer sleaker civic that...
Are you drunk? The 7th gen is "sleeker" the day a Humvee is aerodynamic...5th Gen looked compact, sporty, and I suppose somewhat sleek. 6th Gen grew a little bigger, certainly wider in appearance, and created, in my opinion, a more polished, sleek, and better-refined look than the cheaper appearance of the 5th gen's little sporty plastic look (sorry folks, I'm not hating on 5G, I promise). The 7th gen is big, blocky, frumpy, and everything else that a Civic never should be. I'd drive a Hyundai before you got me into a 7th Gen anything.
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This may or may not relate to the original question, and I don't want to sound like I'm harping on the new Civics, but for a performance oriented model, the new Si/SiR hatch leaves a lot to be desired. Same hp, bad styling, mac struts, more weight. Yes, it has more torque, but that is offset by the extra weight and lower redline. Honda admits that it is no faster than the 6th gen coupe Si/SiR, and if C&D is to be believed, its actually a lot slower. I am not impressed...
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