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Old 11-17-2003, 10:37 PM
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I would personally rather peicer toghter my own kit than buy a used greddy kit, but since you are in cali and are worried about being carb expempt, that could prove a pain in the rear to do. If you get a used Greddy Kit, I would think you could spent the extra $$ you'd have spent building your own kit to get new rods and pistons, new injectors, and turn up the boost a bit You can pump out 270hp on the greddy kit if you turn up the boost. And I would think that if you are a good driver, 270WHP would take out an STI. The greddy kit isn't the best one on the market, but if you are really getting everything you need in good condtion, plus the intercooler, for $1500, thats not a bad deal. I am still a fan of peicing toghter your own kit. Now, as to whether you can do that and stay carb exempt in cali (ypu are in cali, correct?) is a different story, lol. I am not 100% sure on that part. Also, at like 8-12psi you'd be running, the pump gas would be fine I would think. Just make sure to install and keep an eye on your gauges. They'll let you know what is going on under the hood.
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I am actually interested in making my own kit like the post above just said. I found some instructions on how to do that with a T3 turbo but this would be the first time for me. Are these some good instructions?

http://www.cse.uconn.edu/~yelevich/turbo/turbo.html

Please let me know.
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:36 AM
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Re: GSR,loser car? I want to smoke STI's and stangs!

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oh yeah, another issue, with a turbo, will 91 octane gas be enough? california used to have 92 but i dont know what really happened to that. or am i going to have to constantly stock up on octane boosters and spend $40 a tank from now on?
SMC makes a reall good alcohol kit for forced induction cars. That is how I run 24 PSI on 92 octane with no pre-deationation. If your are boosting a car the number one thing to look out for is spark knock. It does not matter how built or not built your engine is spark knock under boost will snap everyting. Make shure you have a knock gauge
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:38 AM
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you say that you want to smoke Subaru STI's and Ford Stangs, good job on what ever performance parts that you would need to beat em'.
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Old 11-21-2003, 12:56 AM
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is the link that hybrid180 provided accurate for building a turbo? it sounds close enough, it kind of encourages me to build my own kit. so would buying and making my own piping from home depot be good enough to handle a turbo? arent those pipes kind of thin and will heat up really fast? im worried that the underhood temps created by the turbo will start to melt hoses and get to gaskets/seals etc... will spraying it with some heat paint or something help?
on a manifold/downpipe question, is that ssautochrome guy on ebay selling good stuff? he has a manifold and downpipe going for about $250 shipped. seems like a 'decent' deal if i dont want to wait around because hes constantly selling it.

also, for a front mount intercooler, will driving in the rain cause harm? does an intercooler suck up water? im not sure how intercoolers work. thanks for all the posts/replies guys, im sure not too many of us can afford sti's and would love to make them cry
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theres a guy on ebay selling intercooled charge pipes based off of the drag piping, he said that its 14gauge oppposed to drags 24 gauge thickness and that its even better fitment than the drag pipes, is about $200 a good price for charge pipes? or should i just home depot and take a couple hours cutting and fitting pieces together?

also is a vafc a good way of tunin the turbo? ive heard a guy was using a vafc instead of a blue box on his greddy kit. off the top of my head im going to go for the following:

manifold
downpipe
t3 maybe t3/4 turbo
piping
wastegate 7psi spring for stock internals
bov
oil lines
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the wastegate is whats going to save me from overboosting right? but what saves me from running too lean or rich? if its too little or too much fuel then my engine will get hurt right? how does that happen? anybody who knows the answers i appreciate it
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Re: GSR,loser car? I want to smoke STI's and stangs!

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the wastegate is whats going to save me from overboosting right? but what saves me from running too lean or rich? if its too little or too much fuel then my engine will get hurt right? how does that happen? anybody who knows the answers i appreciate it
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that ssautochrome guy sells crap dont mess with him that manifold will crack in a heartbeat

as for the intercooler piping i dont know i think you can buy a charge pipe from rev hard for like $140 but you could go to home depot to get the piping

as for tuning you can get a hondata and get it tuned and you will be set that is a really good product

as for the intercooler try not to get one to big so that it does this


yes the intercooler can suck in water if it is a really heavy ran in which i would not suggest driving in it but if it is not a really heavy ran then you should be fine

that is my car integra ls and i have arev hard turbo with a tial 7 psi spring but i am running a fmu but if yo change that to a hondata the rev hard get can be a bad kit
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Old 11-27-2003, 01:43 PM
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Huh? What do you mean the intercooler can suck in water? Putting water in between the fins increases the intercoolers efficiency. There are even kits that spray water onto the intercooler when racing.
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right but those kits are like light mist but if you drive through a big puddle of water and that gets sucked up into the motor is not going to make it run better that is what i meant my bad i will make myself more clear next time
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is that the intercooler that came with the rev hard kit? no right? because if it was a complete kit it should fit.

2.7"x5.5"x33" are these a good measurement for an integra? im basing it off of this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2445346706

yeah im kinda basing all my stuff off of ebay and partstrader to get the cheapest prices. if i go to home depot, what materials should i get? aluminum piping? i see some people using rubber, rubber should be cooler than aluminum right? but it will warp or stretch with the heat huh, also what is a good diameter for the piping, 2.25" ? 3"? what difference would it make? since its turbo, bigger better airflow is the right route?

also, where do i get a hondata? is it a complete ecu? or is it just a programmable compueter that i attach to my ecu? it sounds really pricey, i may just vortech fmu til i can afford one later, 12:1 good? or i think the other one is 8:1 or something

thanks for all the help guys
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Re: GSR,loser car? I want to smoke STI's and stangs!

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as for the intercooler try not to get one to big so that it does this
don't want to make u feel any worse, but that does look kinda bad. hey the bright side, ur turbocharge and that's all that matter . have u taken it on the dyno or track yet?
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Old 11-27-2003, 02:19 PM
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no trans nsx i dont have the turbo on yet i just have the intercooler up yeah i know it looks kind of like crap nut like you said im turbo charged so who cares

2.25" to 2.5" should be fine but dont go no bigger or smaller than that

intercooler size 29" x 8" x 3.5"but that is really big try to get
27" x 6.5" x 3" that would be a nice size and it wont look like mine
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that intercooler looks like its only an inch off the gound, arent you worried about ground clearance? wont one hit tear the whole thing off as well as mess up your piping? looks dangerous
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Re: GSR,loser car? I want to smoke STI's and stangs!

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right but those kits are like light mist but if you drive through a big puddle of water and that gets sucked up into the motor is not going to make it run better that is what i meant my bad i will make myself more clear next time
Where is water going to get sucked in?
Perhaps you mean through the air filter? Which has nothing to do with the intercooler getting wet.
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