Which is better---SR20DET Engine Swap Or Turbo KA24?

[Dorikin]

[quote=Turbo Thoughts]He wanted pros and cons and facts. Lets give em to him and quit bitching.

Reasons to not turbo your KA and get an SR:
-KAs are truck motors.. they were an easy alternative to bringing the good JDM engines over to the US. They're not quite set up or as strong compared to SR20s. SR20s are bulletproof.
-SR20s have many more upgrade available on the market.. Six speed transmissions, turbo upgrades, coil over pulg ignition, all kings of crazy stuff.. They've been race developing them for over a decade.
-You can only go so far with a KA. After the turbo you probaly can't do a whole lot more without having to get reinforced parts... Which I don't think they make over there in japan, being that KAs are economy truck engines to them.(they make the good parts, btw.)
-SR20s stock internals can probaly take two hundred horsepower extra (whether it be from cams, bigger turbos, etc.) before you need to start upgrading to forged stuff. Infact i think there are forged parts stock.
-SR20s are LIGHTER. they're smaller (sits further back and lower for better weight distribution.).... so therefore, getting an SR20 is like also upgrading your handling.
-fuel economy

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Your reasons are so flawed its not even funny.

1.KAs are NOT truck motors. Put down Super Street son. There are 2 versions. One made in Mexico, one made in Japan. The only reason people call them truck motors is b.c they dont rev. But who cares? Its Torque.

BTW lets look at the cars the SR has been in: Sentra, 200SX, Infiniti G20, Primera, and the Xtrail(which is *gasp* a truck!)

Lets put it this way: If the KA was crap, Nissan wouldnt have put it in the car.

2.SRs are NOT bulletproof. Sure, they may have strogner internals, but most engines will blow past 10psi. The KA also has a cast iron block, versus the SRs aluminum block.

3.Lets face it. Who here has the money for the $15,000 GREX 6 speed tranny, or any shit like that. The KA has a good aftermarket. Ever heard of FMAX, Injen, JWT, Yashio Factory, GReddy. They all make shit for the KA. And thats the ip of the icebergs

4.Stock SRs can take 200extra hp? Are you retarded? Do you realize how much that is? SR turbines max out at 10psi, (as do KA engines), and then you need a 2835 or a T3/T4. With the boost comes, you guessed it, the need for internals.

JWT and a bunch of companies here make forged rods, pistons etc. for the KA. Basically any part you need can be had, or hell, made here.

Also, dont tell me KAs max out. Theres a 600hp KAT running 10s down in FLA. SR20DETPower knows all about it.

5.I dont think the SR has stock parts that are forged...to expensive.

6.How are SRs lighter? They have a turbo plus all the ancillary parts! Buying an SR wont upgrade your handling genius, it doesnt sit farther back either smart one, cuz it uses stock mounts!

If you love the SR so much, you dont have to justify it by slagging the KA.

Too many bandwagon jumpers tow the Benson Hsu/SS line by saying its a truck motor etc.

Some people like to be JDM, some people have the sense to do a KA-T and get more hp/$ and some people are so set in there ways, theyll always want an SR, no matter how much it doesnt make sense(in some cases)

[SR20DETpower]

[quote=Dorikin][quote=Turbo Thoughts]He wanted pros and cons and facts. Lets give em to him and quit bitching.

Reasons to not turbo your KA and get an SR:
-KAs are truck motors.. they were an easy alternative to bringing the good JDM engines over to the US. They're not quite set up or as strong compared to SR20s. SR20s are bulletproof.
-SR20s have many more upgrade available on the market.. Six speed transmissions, turbo upgrades, coil over pulg ignition, all kings of crazy stuff.. They've been race developing them for over a decade.
-You can only go so far with a KA. After the turbo you probaly can't do a whole lot more without having to get reinforced parts... Which I don't think they make over there in japan, being that KAs are economy truck engines to them.(they make the good parts, btw.)
-SR20s stock internals can probaly take two hundred horsepower extra (whether it be from cams, bigger turbos, etc.) before you need to start upgrading to forged stuff. Infact i think there are forged parts stock.
-SR20s are LIGHTER. they're smaller (sits further back and lower for better weight distribution.).... so therefore, getting an SR20 is like also upgrading your handling.
-fuel economy

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Your reasons are so flawed its not even funny.

1.KAs are NOT truck motors. Put down Super Street son. There are 2 versions. One made in Mexico, one made in Japan. The only reason people call them truck motors is b.c they dont rev. But who cares? Its Torque.





haha I read super street at grocery store, at the begining is a picture of ugliest mofo around, Ricky Chu, boy needs some clearasil lol......
besides that, he puts down the KA24 and calls it a truck motor, I wanted to throw that magazine at the wall, but on the same token I didn't want to have to buy it LOL

[RalphCare]

actually, the sr20 has forged con-rods.

but that doesnt mean the KA sucks.

Turbo Thoughts.
before u slag the KA and call urself "Turbo Thoughts" i suggest you read up on turbos themselves and put down that super street mag. and unplug those neons from ur cig lighter, and remove that BOV whistle from ur exhaust.

if you call the KA a truck motor, you know NOTHING about the KA. and i can assure u that people with KA's can make so many SR's look stupid.

automotive forums should release a product called n00b-free that u rub into ur scalp to remove the utmost insane n00bness that people seem to like to bring to the 240 forums. i can see why this forum was in shambles when i came here. cause all u bandwagon jumpers jump on, but forget to wear ur seatbelts and wonder why u fell off.

and as for ricki chu, he would have got a verbal raping last time cause i was about to post on his website, but his site was down. luckily i posted it here in AF somewhere, just cant remember where, and dont wanna go lookin for it.

take a ride in a KA-T. take a ride in a SR. then come back and tell me whether or not the KA-T is suitable for SR-Spank runs.

oh and one other thing. if the SR20DE comes with less horses than the KA24DE, then why isnt it considered a grocery getter? ill tell u why. cause its JDM. theres a specific engine for a specific sport. and u just gotta know what u wanna do. and until recently drag racing was all the hype. now cause of some video game, it becomes drifting. dont sit at ur computer and tell me that if drifting werent popular then the KA would still be shunned as much as it is now. i got more to say, just that im runnin low on time. but dont think this will be the last of my n00b bashing.

and if i see one more "engine choice" thread, im seriously gonna shit all over it. its rediculous how none of u use the search button.

oh and one more thing. if ur gonna complain about the KA being heavier than the SR, which it is, by like what??? 10 lbs?? .... then why dont u just remove the AC belt and lose weigh and add 5 horsepower.

dont use the SR's weight as a advantage. and its not a MR engine, so dont assume that just cause it sits like 3 inches further back that it alters ur car into a MR platform. cause it doesnt, it only changes handling a bit. it makes it better, but not different.

[stealthj]

as soon as i sell this convertible and find another hatchback, imma turbo the KA

imma spend the money that i saved for SRswap onto the ka

lets see the HP/$ ratio

[Turbo Thoughts]

Hah. Everyone was just waiting for an excuse to flame, eh? I said add on facts. If you wanted to disprove me state your stuff. Otherwise fine. I'll admit you guys have some great reasons to stick with a KA.
Sure KAs can be made to have incredible power. I just don't thing they're superior to SRs.
Btw, I admit I was wrong.. The SRs bottom end can support more horsepower... valvetrain and baisically everything else needs reworking.

And no, I wasn't educated by super street. Find some new cliche "diss", guys. I was taught that from working in a garage where we serviced a landscaping company's trucks. I worked on rebuilding KAs before I was into the awsomeness known as Nissan and 240's

edit: I'm not into drifting. I'm into hype or fads. I've always liked cars. I've always liked 240s and other RWD cars. I don't like front wheel drive nor do i like drifting. I'm some trendy POS, or a JDM wannabe fanatic. I like SR20s over KA24s. They're both fantstic engines, I love and have no problems with mine. But if i had the choice, where one hand i had an SR20DET in one hand or a KA24DET in the other.. What choice would you make? It's a toughie for me too.
I don't need support or approval. Just like the super street cocksuckers, you're just the same in that you're all conformed to some fixed inflexible yet equally effective train of thought.

[Dorikin]

[quote=Turbo Thoughts]Hah. Everyone was just waiting for an excuse to flame, eh? I said add on facts. If you wanted to disprove me state your stuff. Otherwise fine. I'll admit you guys have some great reasons to stick with a KA.
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No, you just sound the same as the other SS readers, and were fuckin tired of all the KA bashing

[quote]Sure KAs can be made to have incredible power. I just don't thing they're superior to SRs.
Btw, I admit I was wrong.. The SRs bottom end can support more horsepower... valvetrain and baisically everything else needs reworking. [quote]

You know, unless you have a Supra, which can hold like 900hp on stock internals, youre gonna have to rework everything, so its even between the two.

[quote]And no, I wasn't educated by super street. Find some new cliche "diss", guys. I was taught that from working in a garage where we serviced a landscaping company's trucks. I worked on rebuilding KAs before I was into the awsomeness known as Nissan and 240's[quote]

The fact is, that most people who talk like you did were from the Super Street academy of ignorance, therefore the posters will probably continure to use this "cliche diss"

[quote]edit: I'm not into drifting. I'm into hype or fads. I've always liked cars. I've always liked 240s and other RWD cars. I don't like front wheel drive nor do i like drifting. I'm some trendy POS, or a JDM wannabe fanatic.[quote]

Woah, thats refreshing to hear. Ill give you credit for not being a sheep.


[quote]I like SR20s over KA24s. They're both fantstic engines, I love and have no problems with mine. But if i had the choice, where one hand i had an SR20DET in one hand or a KA24DET in the other.. What choice would you make? It's a toughie for me too.
I don't need support or approval. Just like the super street cocksuckers, you're just the same in that you're all conformed to some fixed inflexible yet equally effective train of thought.[quote]

We're not conformed to some train of thought. In fact, given the choice, most of us would take an SR. But we have no $$ for it. The fact is, with a KA-T you can get 200whp from only 1grand, with a junkayrd turbo.

The stock KA in itself is a great motor. Sure, its not as good as a SR, but its quick enough to handle most Honda motors. If Nissan didnt think it was good, they wouldnt have put it in the car.

Besides, why dont we think of it like this. The KA is a 240 motor but in a truck