Sweet Civic ??

[edman24]

what difference does it make if he drives an dx or an hx? oh my bad the throttle body is positioned differently and the cat is right up with the header on the hx models not to mention different wheels. im sorry i must really look like an ass because the dx and hx models are COMPLETELY different.

oh and candlaudio where in my posts did it say that there was no way to make a d series motor do 13's? if you read close enough youll see that i never said that. i said that a built d series motor in this guys car would not do 13's due to the weight and size of rims he is probably running. i mean i have a friend with a high compression d16 running 13's in an EG hatch so its not surprizing.

also i never said i knew more then everybody and i dont know why people always interpret arguements that way. i was trying to prove that i know what i am talking about and in this situation i understood what was going on a little better then Options did.

oh and id still love to see someone with a DX with only 1k worth of mods try and beat me. i will never believe that until it happens (which i doubt it will) but if anyone wants to prove me wrong ill definitely be up for the challenge.

[Trogdor]

dang... this has turned into a bitchfight! lol i apreciate both sides of the argument tho! lol and i must say, that both have very valid points and idea's. although i think both go a lil misconstrued. however ed, u seemed to keep in mind more than others that i want to keep what i have, all my show and sound... i like it... if others can, have both i want it too! but i have seen fast as shit ex's. infact last night... i saw another civic ex... looked kinda nice.... sounded kinda nice... start to jack around with the guy... he looks... laughs and downshifts with a mad turbo scream and wipes his ass with me!!! FINNALY caught up with him after he pulled into a parking lot... start talkin with him... she's a 1.7 ltr sohc v-tech... same freakin civic as me... but she's runnin 13's. however she's turbo'd! (i dont think options likes the turbo's very much, buy hey... thats still freakin A!!) also.... in light of turbo's , my tuner (a guy strait outa Japan. gets kinda hard to understand when he talks fast lol, ) is promising and guanteeing that if i let him turbo my civic , same motor and everything she'll do 12's... or my money back!! and he's been doing this guantee on sohc d series engines for 11 years... and he gets a lil pissy when u tell him u dont believe...he drives a sohc d series engine and it does it... he's very strait up, and provides plenty of proof and a freakin money back guantee!! also, all the garb on the street say's that he know's his shit, and will do whatever he says he can!!! however... it is a 3k job, for a f-max turbo kit and tune. so he firmly believes in my sohc, and loves the engine ( why else would he have one) however also in engine swaps! on his show floor he has a pre-set up engine (i believe a B series) turbo'd and for the entire swap its 8k, but he says if done right that engine alone is a 10 sec. its the shit...and he says, that with a swap i may have more potential in the future... but he says i can also take what i want outa my d-16a2. both sides have solid foundations...!! and me being the one who is supposed to bennifet from ur ideas apreciates both sides because i believe that both had good thoughts, and points...! so thanx yo!! however... i found that for the same price as i can sell my civic for, i can pick up a VR-4 (stock 13.3 1/4, and for and extra 3 bills she'll do 12s!) so ive kinda been giving thought to that... (hence the "change in ride" statement) so what r ya'lls thoughts on that ??? as opposed to the civic... (another thing i finnaly realized is just how many people have modded up civics!!!!! i mean dam!!! i knew there were alot, but i never quite realized the magnatude... so im discouraged about not having anything special!! it used to be my effects but im seeing more and more of those now too! sooo... one more towards the VR-4, and any thoughts would again be apreciated!! ) thanx

[Ricochet]

dude... lay... off... the... speed... pills...
wtf is a 1.7 liter sohc, or d16a2?

Originally posted by Trogdor
all my show and sound... i like it... if others can, have both i want it too! but i have seen fast as shit ex's. infact last night... i saw another civic ex... looked kinda nice.... sounded kinda nice... start to jack around with the guy... he looks... laughs and downshifts with a mad turbo scream and wipes his ass with me!!!

[Trogdor]

a 1.7 liter sohc v-tech is a d-16... for those of us less fortunate, who dont own a b series engine... ther is the single overhead cam d series engines from honda for us lessers (aka we actually have to buy our shit! lol j/k... naw i couldnt afford a si, but i picked up my ex for a realy good deal... and figure if nothin else i can swap a j-spec b series in there for only like 2k soo...) and im not takin speed... just stuck at work... need i say more lol

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by Trogdor
a 1.7 liter sohc v-tech is a d-16

You've got to be shitting me.. 32 posts and you have the nerve to type this?

Let's see, where to begin, okay first of all it's VTEC not V-TECH like the phone.
A D16 is a 1.6 liter (hence the 16 in D16, and B18's are 1.8's etc.)
There is no such thing as a stock Honda 1.7 liter.

[Trogdor]

lol my bad dude... i meant 1.6! i know this, just.... one of those days.... lol and then u put 1.7 so i just copy and pasted... thats what i meant tho! next, who the fuck cares how i spell vtech... u know what i meant... its not a fuckin grammar forum now is it...so back to the topic... any valuble input?

[Redrunner]

Yes there is a 1.7 liter Honda engine they are in the 7th gen hondas

[Redrunner]

going to add this link so I dont have to hear that I am dumb and honda does not make a vtec 1.7l engine so here read it.


YES IT IS TRUE HONDA DOES MAKE A 1.7 SOHC Vtec Engine


http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=3954

[Options]

EW4 1.4L & 1.5L SOHC PGM-Fi '84-'87 Civic 60-92hp

D15B 1.5L SOHC non-VTEC '88-'95 Civic's 62-102hp

D16A1 1.6 L DOHC 86-89 Integra 86/87 113hp 88/89 118hp

D16A6 1.6L SOHC 88-91 Civic Si/ CRX Si 108hp

ZC JDM equivalent of D16A1 130ps

D16Z6 1.6L SOHC VTEC 92-95 Civic EX/Si 125hp

D16Y5 1.6L SOHC VTEC-E 96-00 Civic HX 115hp

D16Y7 1.6L SOHC non-VTEC 96+ Civic CX/DX/LX 106hp

D16Y8 1.6L SOHC VTEC 96+ Civic EX 127hp

B16A 1.6L JDM DOHC VTEC 89-91 Civic Si-R I/CRX Si-R, Integra RSi/XSi 160ps

B16A2/3 1.6L USDM DOHC VTEC 93-97 DelSol VTEC/99-00 Civic Si 160hp

B16A 1.6L JDM DOHC VTEC 92-95 Civic Si-R II/ 92-97 CRX DelSol SiR 170ps

B16B 1.6L JDM DOHC VTEC 98+ Civic Type R 185ps

D17A2 1.7L SOHC VTEC-E 01 Civic EX 127hp

D17A1 1.7L SOHC non-VTEC '01+ Civic DX/LX 115hp

B17A1 1.7L USDM DOHC VTEC 92-93 Integra GS-R 160hp

B18A1 1.8L USDM DOHC non-VTEC 90-93 Integra RS/LS/GS 90-91: 130hp / 92-93: 140hp

B18B1 1.8L USDM DOHC non-VTEC 94-01 Integra RS/LS/GS 140hp

B18C 1.8L JDM DOHC VTEC 94+ Integra SiR-G 180ps

B18C1 1.8L USDM DOHC VTEC 94+ Integra GS-R 170hp

B18C5 1.8L USDM DOHC VTEC 97+ Integra Type R 195hp

B18C6/7 1.8L JDM DOHC VTEC 96+ Integra Type R 200ps

B20A5 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 87-91 Prelude 2.0Si 135hp

B20B 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 96-98 CR-V 126hp

B20Z 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 99-01 CR-V 143hp

B21A1 2.1L DOHC non-VTEC 90-91 Prelude Si 145hp

K20A3 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC '02+ RSX
/'02+ Civic Si 160hp

K20A2 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC 02+ RSX Type S
02+ Civic TypeR 200hp

K20A 2.0L JDM DOHC i-VTEC '02+ Integra Type R 220ps

F20A1 2.0L JDM DOHC non-VTEC 90-93 Accord Si 155hp

F20B 2.0L JDM DOHC VTEC 90-93 Accord Si-R 190ps

F20C1 2.0L DOHC VTEC '00+ S2000 250ps/240hp

F22A1 2.2L USDM non-VTEC 92-96 Prelude S 90-93 Accord LX/EX 130hp-135hp

F22B 2.2L USDM SOHC VTEC 94-97 Accord EX/97 2.2CL 145hp

F23A5 2.3L USDM SOHC 98+ Accord DX 135hp

F23A1 2.3L USDM SOHC VTEC 98+ Accord EX & LX/98-99 2.3CL 150hp

F23A4 2.3L USDM SOHC ULEV VTEC 98+ Accord EX & LX 148hp

H22A1 2.2L USDM DOHC VTEC 92-96 Prelude VTEC 190hp

H22A4 2.2L DOHC VTEC 97-01 Prelude VTEC/SH 97-98: 195hp 99-01: 200hp

H22A 2.2L JDM DOHC VTEC 92+ Prelude Type-S, 97+ Prelude SiR S Spec 220ps

H23A1 2.3L USDM DOHC non-VTEC Prelude Si 160hp

G25A1 2.5L USDM SOHC non-VTEC 96-98 2.5TL 176hp

J25A 2.5L JDM SOHC VTEC V6 JDM Honda Aspire/Sabre 200ps

C27?? 2.7L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 86-89 Legend 150-160hp

C27?? 2.7L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 95-97 Accord V6 170HP

C30A(?) 3.0L DOHC VTEC V6 91-96 NSX/NSX-T 270hp

J30A1 3.0L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 98-02 Accord V6/97-99 3.2CL 200hp

C32A6 3.2L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 91-95 Legend Sdn, 91-92 Legend Cpe 96-98 3.2TL 200hp

C32A5 3.2L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 94-95 Legend GS Sdn, 93-95 Legend Cpe 230hp

C32A? 3.2L DOHC VTEC- V6 97+ NSX/NSX-T 290hp

J32A1 3.2L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 98+ 3.2TL/3.2CL 225hp

J32A2 3.2L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 00+ 3.2CL Type-S, 01 3.2TL Type-S 260hp

C35A2 3.5L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 3.5RL 215-225hp

J35A1 3.5L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 98+ Odyessy 210hp

J35A3 3.5L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 Acura MDX 240hp


AS you can see honda does make a 1.7 liter it comes out of a 93 GSR, and the D17A1 has a 1.7 liter in it.

[Trogdor]

thank u! options man, i thought u had given up on this thread... thank u for not!! u seem to be a supreme fan of the sohc thats in my civic , but how do u feel about turbo'ing d series engines? know much about it? i believe that the guy will get her runnin 12.s with his turbo and tune, but im not sure about reliability... what do yall know about these things? second, im still lookin at that VR-4... anyone have any imput???

[Tanked]

There is no such thing as a stock Honda 1.7 liter.

Really? I have one in my car.

D17A2, 127 HP, SOHC-VTEC, Stock EX 2003 engine.

[edman24]

turboing your d series is a good idea too. would have a lot more potential that an NA would. could boost 8 psi safely on stock internals and fuel system. with upgrades ive seen stock d series motors handling 12psi if not more for extended periods of time of course with great tuning and fuel delivery but its been done.if you built your d series then youd be a pimp and have one bad ass ride.

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by Trogdor
she's a 1.7 ltr sohc v-tech... same freakin civic as me...

Trogdor owns a 99 Civic EX, so to clarify my statement, there is no such thing as a 1999 Honda 1.7 litre.

[Trogdor]

right, settled... back to the point

[97civiclx]

ok first off i have a few ??
1. what upgrades would i have to do to my d16 to run 12 psi?
2. i have a y7 that i want to swiths out to a y8 head, and i have to wire the vtec, the problem with that is i do not know how to wire the vtec so if anybody could point me in the right direction on that as far as diagrams go that would be totally helpful.thanks