Recap of the English F1 fleet - Take 2...

[f1esp]

#005




http://www.ukvehicle.com/L664MEP/

[JK.]

The black glass looks incredible. I do think that this car needs the black wheels again, just to tie everything together, given the black paintwork and the dark windows.

[hurstg01]

I spy an AF'er - come on Roger, show us your pics

[BMW V12]

I also saw the car today, the event was the AVD Oldtimer Gran Prix 2016 at the Nürburgring. I can recommend this event to everybody in and near Germany, the sound of the old DTM or DRM cars is absolutely stunning!

Car looked very filthy, the owner must have driven the car there once again. Lots of scratches on the front splitter and stone chips on the car, you can definitely see it's high amount of miles. I liked it...

[Sami Aaltonen]

So he really uses the car like it should be used!
Fantastic. I would love to see this car some point!

[roger_ph]

Originally Posted by hurstg01

I spy an AF'er - come on Roger, show us your pics

OK Greg, but only because you've been asking so politely:







Lovely to see this beast that dirty

[arjan916]

Thanks.
Have you heard that #020 had some overheating issues last weekend?

[carbuilder2002]

Hmmm has the indicator/sidelights reversed.
Wonder if there are different requirements in different countries?
i.e. Indicators or sidelights outboard.

[f1esp]

Originally Posted by carbuilder2002

Hmmm has the indicator/sidelights reversed.
Wonder if there are different requirements in different countries?
i.e. Indicators or sidelights outboard.

Reversed?
IMHO they are correctly placed.

[carbuilder2002]

For some reason I was sure the indicators were outboard of the sidelights usually.
mind saying that it's not unusual for them to be otherwise as they fit both ways.

[f1esp]

You are right: they fit both ways, but this is not the right position.

[f1esp]

It's the same for rear lights:

[carbuilder2002]

After 35 years building cars here in the uk it was generally accepted that the indicators were as near to the outside as practical but I also am sure nothing was ever put in stone to that effect as there is also a school of thought that the side lights or marker lights should be at the extremities. It's probably one of those things that is down to interpretation.
can anyone quote the regulations on this?
Just noted my Mercedes has the side lights inboard and indicators outboard.
My Lotus esprit had the indicators outboard and my jaguars all had the indicators outboard.

[f1esp]

Originally Posted by carbuilder2002

can anyone quote the regulations on this?

I found this on UK regulations for road vehicles lighting:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1.../contents/made


SCHEDULE 2
PART I
Requirements relating to obligatory front position lamps and to optional front position lamps to the extent specified in part II

Position of the front position lamps:
(i)Where two front position lamps are required to be fitted–
_(A)Maximum distance from the side of the vehicle–
__(1)A motor vehicle first used on or after 1st April 1986: 400 mm
__(2)A trailer manufactured on or after 1st October 1985: 150 mm
__(3)Any other vehicle manufactured on or after 1st October 1985: 400 mm
__(4)A motor vehicle first used before 1st April 1986 and any other vehicle manufactured before 1st October 1985: 510 mm

_(B)Minimum separation distance between front position lamps: No requirement




SCHEDULE 7
PART I
Requirements relating to obligatory direction indicators and to optional direction indicators to the extent specified in part II

Position of the front direction indicators:
(i)Maximum distance from the side of the vehicle–
_(A)Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (B): 400 mm

(ii)Minimum separation distance between indicators on opposite sides of a vehicle–
_(A)A motor vehicle (other than a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination or an invalid carriage having a maximum speed not exceeding 8 mph) first used on or after 1st April 1986, a trailer manufactured on or after 1st October 1985, a horse-drawn vehicle, a pedstrian-controlled vehicle and a vehicle drawn or propelled by hand: 500 mm or, if the overall width of the vehicle is less than 1400 mm, 400 mm



So I guess both ways of fitting the front lights are legal.

[carbuilder2002]

I had no doubts they were both legal just unclear on what is preferred or customary practice as there are arguments in favour of both points of view however from what I can see most vehicles seem to favour indicators on the outside, at least in the UK.
As I said possibly other countries are different.
Anyway seems we got way off track for this thread and I apologise.