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Yes, let people have them, and lighten up on the policies. 11 57.89%
No, regulate them more. 8 42.11%
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Old 10-26-2001, 03:08 PM
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I own a lot of firearms. I teach my 5 children firearm safety, and require before they hunt with me that they attend firearm safety classes. I believe one of the biggest issues is toy guns. This subject gets my blood pumping, so excuse me if it becomes a little obtuse.

Guns are not toys, so in fact there is no such thing as a toy gun. If you teach a child from an ealy age that it is okay to point ANYTHING in the semblence of a gun at someone and go Bang! you are teaching them that it is okay. This is wrong. Please start gun safety at home. Do not buy cap guns, squrt guns etc for your chiildren. Teach them that guns are not toys.

I am a hunter and target shooter. I load most of my own shells, and spend a lot of time in the field. I hope the day never comes that I have to use one of my guns to protect my family, but it is comforting knowing that I have that option.

I also agree, and though I don't have statistical #'s to prove it, that allowing citizens to attend CCW classes and carry a concealed firearm upon completion of such course helps lower crime rates. It would take a real moron to walk into a bank of a state like Arizona or Texas and try and rob the place with even just 10 customers in there.
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Guns are not toys...
I play a game called Airsoft, in which we use replica guns that fire 6mm plastic BB's and play paintball like games. (Think Airsoft=Rainbow Six:Paintball=Quake) Anyway, we make a point to treat all our guns like the real steel, although we shoot each other with them in 'battle'.
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I'm not really a gun person. I think they need to crack down on the laws to try and stop people getting them. There are far to many nutters out there who can get there hands on one and go mad.

Fair enough if people use them for hunting etc...but personal guns i'm against.

Its hard to draw a line between the two though.
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I fear doctors a hell of a lot more then gun owners. I'll try to find the statistics later, but there are thousands of more deaths each year due to doctor incompetence then deaths by legal concealed weapon gun owners.













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I fear doctors a hell of a lot more then gun owners. I'll try to find the statistics later, but there are thousands of more deaths each year due to doctor incompetence then deaths by legal concealed weapon gun owners.
There are also thousands of people saved by doctors each year too.
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i don't think we're allowed to carry them with us (then it's a concealed weapon) but we're allowed them in the house
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I play a game called Airsoft, in which we use replica guns that fire 6mm plastic BB's and play paintball like games. (Think Airsoft=Rainbow Six:Paintball=Quake) Anyway, we make a point to treat all our guns like the real steel, although we shoot each other with them in 'battle'.
that sounds pretty sweet but..... how old are you??
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Age, always about the age... anyway, I'm 18 and the youngest of the group, most of the guys are in their mid 20's, one's 36. Its all about the tactical realism. ;-) I'd also like to mention, so you don't get the wrong idea, these aren't some store bought plastic BB guns, these suckers fire BB's at about 400fps, 500 for the souped up guns, compared to paintball which is what, 250? Anyway, they're less mass, but on bare skin they sting like a mother, but theres no bruising paintball style. The game is played on the honor system, as well, being as theres no paint, but trust me, everyone thats played paintball that we got to play with us converted. Its HUGE in Japan. Check out www.airsoftzone.com for more info. You can get all kinds of guns, for example, I use a Steyr AUG, buddies have M16's, M4A1's, MP5's, UZI's, etc. Standard price for a gun is about $250, and BB's are 2500 for $10. Problem is, all this crap is shipped from over seas, so tack on lke an $80 shipping charge to everything heavy. :-P So yeah, don't get the wrong idea, its way harder core than paintball :-P.
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that must freakin kill!!!! ouch... it hurts getting hit by a paintball, and that gun is twice as powerfull

ow ow ow ow ow!

I'd do it if my friends got into it, but all my friends think they're too old for everything idiots
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Age, always about the age... anyway, I'm 18 and the youngest of the group, most of the guys are in their mid 20's, one's 36. Its all about the tactical realism. ;-) I'd also like to mention, so you don't get the wrong idea, these aren't some store bought plastic BB guns, these suckers fire BB's at about 400fps, 500 for the souped up guns, compared to paintball which is what, 250? Anyway, they're less mass, but on bare skin they sting like a mother, but theres no bruising paintball style. The game is played on the honor system, as well, being as theres no paint, but trust me, everyone thats played paintball that we got to play with us converted. Its HUGE in Japan. Check out www.airsoftzone.com for more info. You can get all kinds of guns, for example, I use a Steyr AUG, buddies have M16's, M4A1's, MP5's, UZI's, etc. Standard price for a gun is about $250, and BB's are 2500 for $10. Problem is, all this crap is shipped from over seas, so tack on lke an $80 shipping charge to everything heavy. :-P So yeah, don't get the wrong idea, its way harder core than paintball :-P.

I heard about that, isn't it like one step above paintball? I'm supposed to go with friends in the Spring.
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I have played paintball, and loved it. There is a real cool place out here to do it.

BUT: It is being played by responsible older (late teens and older) people, who comprehend the dangers, wear the proper safety gear, etc.. You don't see anyone that's like 8 yrs old playing. I want to take three of my boys, all teens that fully respect the safety involved.
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KB..... you come up with the most INTERESTING polls, man!!

But to answer the question at hand: I'm all for handguns. But just like a lot of you have said, the laws are a bit lax, I think. Primera man said it when he said that way too many nut cases can easily get their hands on a gun just as easy as running down to the store for bread.

Just MY $0.02 worth! (and YES, I own a chrome-plated Taurus 9mm, and dare U to test my aim )
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I am all for guns, in fact I own quite a few. What I don't agree with is assault rifles such as an AK-47. There is no point for the public to have one of these types of guns. There is only one thing you would hint with one, humans!!

Handguns and regular rifles, yes. Assault rifles, NO!
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Polygon:

For the most part I agree.

But wouldn't it be a kick in the butt to sit down with with a fully automatic BAR .50 with about 6000 rounds and go ballistic on cans, plastic bottles, tennis balls etc.. at the local shooting range!?

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I'm for guns. However, I want to emphasize, legally owning them. I have from personal experience seen that it is really easy to get a gun from the streets. I used to own a few of these illegally attained weapons and at a fraction of the cost to getting a legit one. So I would like to say regulate them, but becareful who gets them.
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