Attack of the killer bees!!!

[DeViL]

lol what the hell are you comparing a 1973-88 Nova for? This was not a 73. It was more like a 69 or 70. He had a couple namebrands on the back window so it probably wasn't stock, that doesn't even matter a 70 Nova would rip apart an Accord. The thing no doubt had a 350 V8.

[civicHBsi91]

He had a couple namebrands on the back window so it probably wasn't stock

theres a 90 auto probe around here with a clutchmasters and a crane cams sticker, hes probably not stock huh? just cant rely on stickers

[Cbass]

Originally posted by civicHBsi91
theres a 90 auto probe around here with a clutchmasters and a crane cams sticker, hes probably not stock huh? just cant rely on stickers

I notice the sticker rice thing is very rare with people who own domestics, although I have seen it

Still, a smallblock Nova is a very respectable car, even if it's only making 250hp.

[civicHBsi91]

I notice the sticker rice thing is very rare with people who own domestics, although I have seen it

never know these days man, v6 maro's goin around with z28 badges and dual pipes, altezzas on maros and mustangs....its a sad sad thing this world is coming to

[DeViL]

I figured someone would bring that up and yeah that is true. But I haven't seen a 60's car yet around here with stickers on the side that didn't have the parts in them.

I notice the sticker rice thing is very rare with people who own domestics

I'd say its more of a rare thing with people who own an older domestic. You'll probably see Cavaliers and hell V6 Camaros these days with NOS stickers and shit on them.

Still, a smallblock Nova is a very respectable car, even if it's only making 250hp.

Wtf Novas would make from 300 to 375hp in 69. Again this isn't some piece of shit 74 Nova.

[carrrnuttt]

Like I said...

...I am not trying to start anything.

But a blanket statement that essentially states that "why should these cars be messing with a Nova, they know it has a V8", is too general. For all you know, one of these Civics had some kind of swap. Also, for you know it was this type of Civic. In that video in the link, it ran this car.

I have heard 11-second and 12-second all-motor passes in Hondas. Unfortunately, "killer-bees" is the only way to describe their sound. Due to the size of their engine and the exhaust-pulse coming out of a hyper-active motor, that is most of the time, the only way they can sound.

P.S. I know that more than likely, especially the way you described it, that Nova was surely at least moderately fast...It's just that I have beaten V8's with my current car (which has one of the weakest engines in the Honda world...108HP stock), and previous cars I have owned. Including my 1991 Beretta GTZ which had 180HP and 160TQ stock from it's Quad 4 motor.

I take everything with a grain of salt. If it was say, a 99+ Camaro SS, or even an LT1, I would say it more than likely over unless the Hondas you saw were like the example I showed above. But for older cars, you never know what condition they're in. This is coming from a guy that has beaten a couple of those cars. Not everybody knows what to do with their cars.

I repeat, I take everything with a grain of salt. I win, cool. I lose, oh well, I'll work on getting faster when time and money allows. But I will NEVER make a blanket statement like that, because I know better. Through the power of the internet, I have seen beat-up, 4-banger mini-vans run 12s and better. Hell, that race I mentioned agains that beat-up Plymouth Reliant where he was egging me on, I wasn't sure if I'd win or lose (I won), because I have seen one of those run and beat a Supra (K-car ran 10's).

Just keeping it in perspective. Don't want this place turning into Fbody.com or LS1tech.com. They have enough prejudices there for the whole Internet. Hell, even if they lose to a 4-banger, they automatically assume that whoever it was spent 50grand on their motor and wasted their money anyways. That's open-mindedness for ya.

[DeViL]

You are absolutely correct in everything you said. It could of been very possible they were sleepers. However I must testify that they were all pretty much stock, maybe an air intake or something. I could tell this when they were lined up next to them. I never heard any turbos of the sort nor did they take off incredibly fast. They took off at a relative speed I would expect an Accord or Civic would.

[carrrnuttt]

Originally posted by DeViL
You are absolutely correct in everything you said. It could of been very possible they were sleepers. However I must testify that they were all pretty much stock, maybe an air intake or something. I could tell this when they were lined up next to them. I never heard any turbos of the sort nor did they take off incredibly fast. They took off at a relative speed I would expect an Accord or Civic would.

Nah, I never said I didn't believe you. Hell, my car would probably beat most of those cars. Just got done smoking a 2001 Accord the other day by MANY car lengths.

I just didn't like that statement where you said it was stupid for them to mess with a V8. If they have the balls to do it, and they can back it up, cool. If not, it was their bad in the first place. On the other hand, most sleeper Hondas earn their way exactly because of that 'tude.

[mixedbreedx]

were you at the long john silvers at the dale blvd/minnieville intersection?

[Donham]

Originally posted by DeViL
lol what the hell are you comparing a 1973-88 Nova for? This was not a 73. It was more like a 69 or 70. He had a couple namebrands on the back window so it probably wasn't stock, that doesn't even matter a 70 Nova would rip apart an Accord. The thing no doubt had a 350 V8.

While I tend to be a bit more liking to the American cars, The Nova might not have done so well, some Nava's have 6 Cylnders, and I don't mean turbo or hi-po 6 popers either, alot of the mid 70's Nava's had 307's, a V8 yes, but I'm not sure if it would take on a stock Honda or not, depends on how tired the engine is and if it's stock, most 307's were 2 BBl carb 150 hp engines...
Even a stock 350 might not do it...

Too many varibles.. to know...
some Nova's 69-70 came out with 375 hp 396's and would fly, but who is to say a Honda with plenty of mods would not kill off a tired old 396...
I know there are Nova's in the Stock appering class (they look stock inside and out (even engine bay and engine itself), with 396's (they are like 502's) that run 11's through manifolds, full stock sounding exhaust etc etc... with junk stock redline tires...

I see people restore old musclcars, and never do anything to the tired old engine... even some of those feared old muscle cars, run only 16's because of the tired old stock engine, and in a new painted restored, new crome bumpers etc body outside..
the sheep in wolfs clothing car deal..
Maybe the guy in the Nova (if he liked to race) ) did the right thing.

scott

[DeViL]

Yeah welcome to two months ago. heh j/k

were you at the long john silvers at the dale blvd/minnieville intersection?

Actually yes I was. You live around here?

[mixedbreedx]

i was doing a yahoo search on something automobile related and i ended up at that page and saw your post. Didn't notice the date lol.

yeah my father lives on savannah dr. right up the street