96 caprice 4 door window problems

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[96capricemgr]

The HELP brand roller is round, the stock GM piece is oval. The HELP round one works perfectly, I have used them in 2 cars within the last year.

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[simmerje]

i just replace both rear window slide on a 92 caprice. the original slide are now superceded by new round rollers. but here is the catch, the dealer says if you regulator does not snap into the new slide then you have to by a new regulator. well mine did not fit but i use the original to get the actaul hole size and made the new to spec with a drill. they work like brand new windows now. just thought i would through that in there. later

['97ventureowner]

The round rollers are much of an improvement over the old oval shaped ones. They slide easier which causes less issues in the long run. I believe the dealer is trying to make some extra money by telling you that you need a new regulator as these cost several hundred dollars. I've heard others in the same situation get fed the same line by their dealer as well. In my post earlier in this thread (#7) I linked to another thread that I had started a few years back on this subject. In that thread I referenced a site that has a walk through on replacing the rollers on these B Body vehicles from start to finish. Here is a quote from that site and I have highlighted the part that may help those in the future should they experience the same issue simmerje has:

The Job:

I have never seen the front roller break, only the back one. the front would be the same but would be easier just to take the whole window out. This is where a stubby flat head screwdriver with a square shaft or one like the Snap-On peice that has the area at the base on the handle that you can put a wrench onto helps out (put a cable tie or string on the box end of the wrench so you have something to grab on to if/when you drop it in the door). Use the pliers and pry the track open along the bottom within an inch or so from the end, enough to get the broken roller out. Be careful, the openings in the door can cut you. Getting the new roller in will be a little snug. I used the phillips screwdriver stuck into the hole of the new roller and used the door for leverage to snap it in. You don't need to squeeze the track back because with the window working, it wont go back that far but you can if you wish. Line up the roller with the regulator and with a 2" c-clamp, squeeze the roller on the regulator ball. Your done! It's nice to buy the 5 new clips each door uses to replace the ones that'll likely need to be once it's removed. It'll help cut down on any squeaks later on. Make sure all the clips are in place, put the panel back on and your in business.

I remember I had to work it a bit to get the new rollers to fit but they do. I also put a little grease in the tracks to aid in rollers sliding in the track. After many years of service , the old grease tends to need a little boost.