VR4 vs SS/SC

[TorchedStealth]

Yeah the maro he is talking about is a good friend of ours. He is a good driver and that thing is a beast...sooo clean too. It only has a custom made intake and SLP loudmouth cat back (which I would recomend for anyone with an LS1). Mzr raced him before header and DP and got beat by about 3/4 of a car to about 110, but the camaro was pulling more and more on the top end. Hmm looks like thats another race we will have to tape!

And the VR4 is 701's. He has a EBC at 14.5psi, intake, and possibly turbo back exhaust (his dam car is too low to lift ul to see under), but at least cat-back. They were dead even from like 40-90 before header/do, but 701 was still messing with the BC and it was boucing from 10-15psi and only holding about 11-12. Now its holding 14-14.5 and almost 12-13 to redline. Thats why remarches are in order!

[VR43000GT]

You guys should get 701's car checked out. And btw, if he has intake, MBC, and catback he is looking more around 370ish hp at the most...no way does he have 400hp. Assuming the driver was worth a crap at all, you would lose 400hp VR4 from any speed. And if you did win, it would be the driver's fault. Not trying to be the bad guy or a 3/S fan boy but just stating the facts.

[TorchedStealth]

His car is fine. It was apparently failed to mention before that the boost was all over the place before. It screams like a raped ape now. And agreed that there is now way BC, intake, and exhaust will net 80 bhp...those number are inflamed.

This makes me want to video tape these races tonight. I dont care that I just got my wisdom teeth out this morning. We need to have this settled. Tyler tonight or tomorrow its going down..vr4, maro or both

[Stealthee]

Originally Posted by MZR_47

Yay for quick little bastards! Most people are suprised by these things. The Rabbit R32 guy I killed was quite impressed by how badly I beat him. I can run doors with I/E LS1s and ~400hp VR4s. Not many people would expect that, me included. Had I not seen these things happen first hand, I wouldnt believe it either.

a 400hp VR4 is a mid 12 car. You wouldnt stand a chance from a dig, or from a roll. Those long gears in the VR4 really help it in a roll race.

[MZR_47]

Well then Sids VR4 HP estimate must be way off, as thats what it is predicted at.

He has the 6 speed, we found out my 2nd gear is longer than his is.

And I really dont expect anything but critisism with this car, as it is pretty much all I ever get. People doubt it withoug actually knowing what it can do. You say that it is impossible, yet I have witnesses to the LS1 and VR4 races. I did include the "~" for a reason, as I didnt think it has quite 400, but we have to other number to go off of.

And why are we still comparing 1/4 times of a 3800lb, AWD car to a 2900lb FWD car?

[Stealthee]

Another note of interest is STOCK VR4's are quicker than your listed time.

Sounds to me you are beating the driver, not the car.

[VR43000GT]

That is what I did not want to have happen. I wasn't saying your car is in any way, shape or form bad or inferior. I was just stating what Stealthee was saying, you probably beat the driver, which there is no disrespect in that! And even with those trap times it's about or even less than what a stock VR4 does. The only reason I bring these issues up is because I want to know how someone has won or lost...I'm not doubting any of them.

[TorchedStealth]

Hmm driver eh? Maybe this means 701 will let me drive the verfer against you MZR!

And stealthee, the traps are quite close to a stick vr4 like you mentioned, but I've seen several times cars with our mods pull a couple cars on stock vr4s. Hell I got into a short run with one before I had header and dp and was pulling pretty decently, but its was also a bone stock first gen that doesnt look like its been taken care of well. (MZR, its the VR4 who's owner works at papa johns on washington)

I think 701 and MZR will be a damn good race personally, and if you guys are confident in my mad tyte driving skillz I could maybe convince 701 to let me behind the wheel. Until then i think we should drop it cause there is no use in arguing about something that we should be testing very soon. We can let SL's thread get back on topic (actually this argument was quite on topic) and we will get footage hopefully tomorrow of teh vr4 and possibly the LS1 if the cops arent out too much.

Now we play the waiting game!

p.s. I might finally tear shit apart on my car tomorrow and see if I can get it running right again!

[vectorspecialist]

i can honostly see a srt4/cobalt ss/ ion redline pulling on a vr4 or stealth tt in a roll, they have an amazing amount of power and torque and only fwd, less powertrain loss, and much less weight.

standing 1/4, i'd assume the 3 cars mentioned by me with fwd will have a hard time hooking up at first, but once hooked would go like a bat out of hell. i know of a few srt4's and cobalt ss/sc running nothing more than intake and exhaust that pull on cars with in the area of 300hp, such as my buddy's zx tt, a 350z, and a base 911

[TorchedStealth]

With just an intake I was very close to an 03-05 350 but I couldnt take him, he did have an intake and an AMAZING sou ding exhaust though. I think he wants to race again because a few weeks ago he pulled into a parking lot when I was inside eating and just circled my car and left...weird right? Lol

The newer Z's will never be run down by a stock LSJ tho...them shits is quick! And if the 300zx is a Z32 I dont think a stock LSJ should touch it, since those are on par with VR4s and Supras...and I know I couldnt touch any of those stock. But anything can happen

[-The Stig-]

Originally Posted by Stealthee

Holy Huge Signature Batman!!!

[Stealthee]

Hehehe. I dont know how I did it. I went to change it one day and it went thru. I've probably had it for about a year now. Its the same sig I use on another forum.

[vectorspecialist]

^ you get the side skirt on yet?

300zx/z32 same thing. the guys got beat, granted one of the drivers is just really bad at driving, i'm surprised he drives a stick shift, he stalled 3x with me in the car trying to get out of a parking lot

[Polygon]

Time to get some coppers and tighten the gap a little.

Very nice race man. I love when they run away, it's hilarious.

[Stealthee]

Originally Posted by vectorspecialist

^ you get the side skirt on yet?

300zx/z32 same thing. the guys got beat, granted one of the drivers is just really bad at driving, i'm surprised he drives a stick shift, he stalled 3x with me in the car trying to get out of a parking lot

Hehe, yeah theyve been on for awhile.