clutch riding

[Melt]

Originally posted by Moppie
I also noted someone mentioned throwing the car in neutral to slow down.
Don't.
Change down throuh the gears as you slow down, its better for the car and gearbox, and it means your ready to move off should the light change, or something happens in frount of you requiring you to have total control of the car. (e.g. dodge to the side etc)

Is it? I always figured downshifting and shit all the time would put more strain on the tranny. Whatever though, you posted some great info

[darolh]

Originally posted by Melt


Is it? I always figured downshifting and shit all the time would put more strain on the tranny. Whatever though, you posted some great info

Downshifting does put more strain on the tranny. It's an old way of slowing the vehicle down when brakes sucked (before we were born). The only time you "need" do it is to be ready to get on it as you exit the corner you just set up so brilliantly for. Regular boring driving doesn't require it.

I do it all the time anyway 'cause I like stirring the gearbox and listening to the motor. My bad. I also shift without the clutch sometimes just for fun to prove I can. In my old 5.0 I used to shift without the clutch all the time. It was an easy gearbox for clutchless shifting.

[1PhatCX]

Originally posted by darolh

I do it all the time anyway 'cause I like stirring the gearbox and listening to the motor. My bad. I also shift without the clutch sometimes just for fun to prove I can. In my old 5.0 I used to shift without the clutch all the time. It was an easy gearbox for clutchless shifting.

Doesnt this grind the gears?? or do u have to find the "sweet spot" to do this, or is there a certain RPM you can do it at? i'm not gonna try cuz i'm afraid of grinding the gears but i have heard about it. i'll just stick to the clutch method when shifting for now lol:smoker2:

[sastanley]

Yo - I like this thread...Good info Moppie and darolh.

I often downshift too when stopping..keeping the weight of the car on the engine eases brake wear (like darolh said) and also allows for quick control with the throttle if you need it. Those of you who don't live near ice may not care, but if you try to stop and lock up your wheels on a piece of ice in neutral, you are in trouble. I love working the gears too as I downshift.. When I sit tho my throwout?? bearing (there are so many bearings I forget which one) is wearing out so I push the clutch in if I am not sitting for too long so it isn't noisy like when I sit in neutral with the clutch out.

Shifting without the clutch I think puts more strain on the synchros, but is good practice in the event you need to do it. and yeah..there is kind of a sweet spot..the key is to have the tranny and engine spinning at the 'same' speed so the gear will side in without grinding too bad (or if you are good, not at all ). I already have to double-clutch 3rd to ease on the grinding..I hope my Si tranny going in with the ZC doesn't grind

When I go into reverse, I always hit 2nd as I stop, cuz it is easier to get into than 1st (if I am still rolling a little) and does all that fnacy shit Moppie said..and it cuts WAY down on the grinding..I don't think reverse is synchroed in our trannies, so doing what moppie said helps that issue and makes your car :flash:

[darolh]

Originally posted by sastanley
Yo - I like this thread...Good info Moppie and darolh.


When I go into reverse, I always hit 2nd as I stop, cuz it is easier to get into than 1st (if I am still rolling a little) and does all that fnacy shit Moppie said..and it cuts WAY down on the grinding..I don't think reverse is synchroed in our trannies, so doing what moppie said helps that issue and makes your car :flash:

No synchro on reverse and it's a straight cut gear (that's why it's so loud).

All ya gotta do there is if it doesn' go straight in reverse, lift on th eclutch a bit to get things spinning and it'll drop right in without a fight.

[Moppie]

Originally posted by sastanley
When I sit tho my throwout?? bearing (there are so many bearings I forget which one) is wearing out so I push the clutch in if I am not sitting for too long so it isn't noisy like when I sit in neutral with the clutch out.

Putting your foot on the clutch puts pressure on the throw out bearing, which makes it go quite. Unforunatly its when its under pressure that it suffers wear.
So your actualy increasing the amount of wear and shortening whats left of its life, even though it does sound better, its actualy not.