Is Saddam kidding?

[Steel]

gas prices are already rediculous enough. grr. Oh well, maybe if they skyrocket some more, there wont be as many damn explorers/expeditions/excursions and other gas guzzling suvvies out there.

[taranaki]

Originally posted by YogsVR4




As for "Saddam has nothing to do with the terrorist attacks." I'm glad Mr. T has that information and he is willing to share it with the rest of us

Care to put up one single shred of evidence to connect them?I don't think you can,but it won't stop you from trying.

So far I see little support on AF for your xenophobic,irrational and antisocial point of view.Maybe you are one of the few Bush supporters who is literate?

How many people will it take to convince you that this campaign is about oil and votes?Bush would be unemployed come next election if he wasn't pulling these half-assed propaganda stunts.

[Oz]

Bush is a narrow minded, short-sighted excuse for a political stunt. 'Maybe I can finish Daddy's war...'

Reasons Bush wants war - to continue what Dad started, to try and get a better oil price out of OPEC, to win votes/supporters with 'vengence on terrorists/bad Iraqis making big weapons', big money maker for goverment/heavy industry, HE CAN.

Yogs - I cannot see why you beleive what you do, and can't see a logical path to your argument. However, I respect your opinion and your right to free speech.

Naki - Agreed. Nuff said.

Anyone with an IQ of 92 and enough money to buy his way into office won't get the time of day from me.

[whttrshpunk]

Bush is a narrow minded, short-sighted excuse for a political stunt. 'Maybe I can finish Daddy's war...'

Unfounded opinion.

Reasons Bush wants war - to continue what Dad started, to try and get a better oil price out of OPEC, to win votes/supporters with 'vengence on terrorists/bad Iraqis making big weapons', big money maker for goverment/heavy industry, HE CAN

Unfounded opinion. Most things I say are unfounded opinions too, glad to see I'm not alone.

Yogs - I cannot see why you beleive what you do, and can't see a logical path to your argument. However, I respect your opinion and your right to free speech.

Good, it's hard to have a debate when it's really just someone preaching at you and telling you you're wrong.

I'm with Yogs, right wingers unite! Oh and just remember, all right wingers and gun owners and usually mentally defecient, if you argue with us long enough we'll just shoot you and then blow up a building. Well, at least that's what they said on TV

[Oz]

Unfounded Opinion, but anyone with an IQ>Bush can see the truth to it. Nuff said. I leave this thread to the right wingers in disgust.

[taranaki]

Maybe if Bush wants Iraq that badly he should lead from the front.That way, if he died,the rednecks would have their hero,and the world would be a beter place.Or maybe someone should........

http://www.evilninja.net/buybush.htm

Oh...somebody already did.:silly2: :silly2: :silly2:

[jon@af]

Am I mistaken or did we(the United States) not have the chance to kill saddam when big Bush was the prez? didnt Norman Schwartzkopf (SP?) want to get rid of him? didnt big Bush say no?

[I-Tech]

I think you should remove Saddam from his power and regime.. That way we could stop his tyranni

[Jetts]

all u people fight over what country is better and shit, but i will quote my world history teacher on this one

"Yankee go home, but take me with you" -Dumitrache

thats all i got to say

[igor@af]

I began reading this thread, but due to its extensive length did not read all of it.

But I think I could add some things to the discussion.


Here is my opinion-
I think that Bush is an idiot, and I still cannot believe that he was elected president of the most powerful country. There are two kinds of presidents, IQ intelligent and street intelligent.

You should read this page written by a very smart historian - Joe Ellis who I respect very much for his works, such as Founding Brothers, and his opinions of the current American state.

http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/f...-17/ellis2.htm

3rd paragraph begins talking about the attributes that presidents have had, and should have, etc.

Second, there is a kind of intelligence that will not show up on IQ or SAT scores that has historically proven most efficacious in the executive office. It is the capacity to distinguish between the forests and the trees, the arteries and the capillaries, the strategy and the tactics. Washington, Lincoln, and both Roosevelts had it. Isaiah Berlin, the great British political philosopher, described it as the difference between the hedgehog and the fox. The fox knows many little things. The hedgehog knows one big thing. (Of course, it goes without saying that the one big thing you know had better be right.) My sense is that this is a mental skill or talent that can be learned but cannot be taught. Washington learned it during those eight long years leading the Continental Army. John Adams and Harry Truman learned it from reading history. Benjamin Franklin seems to have been born with it. Engineers like Hoover and Carter almost always lack it. The supporters of George W. Bush want us to believe that he acquired it as a cheerleader at Andover and a fraternity man at Yale. We'll see.

Bush is neither smart in the usual way we percieve it - grades and test scores, nor is he street smart - not knowing foreign political leader names clearly shows that - he has no clue what is happening around him.

Now moving on to the current American foreign policy-

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...7%2F2zkyx.html

http://www.sunspot.net/news/custom/i...,3861012.story

http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/010803A.wrp.facts.htm

And if you totally ignored my post, I ask you that you at least read this one editorial:

http://www.roanoke.com/roatimes/news/story142267.html

If after reading this one you still believe that what is happening today in our world is all 'good and fine' then there must be something extremely wrong with your thought process

[Melt]

Originally posted by Steel
gas prices are already rediculous enough. grr. Oh well, maybe if they skyrocket some more, there wont be as many damn explorers/expeditions/excursions and other gas guzzling suvvies out there.

Haa, has anyone seen those new commercials yet where they say buying gas for your SUV supports terroism?

Anyway, back on topic ... While I agree that the US gets involved in too much shit that we shouldnt, the terroist attacks on 9-11 should not be held as an example of this.

The terroist attacks happened because of a bunch of fucking morons think that everyone should practice their religion and they do not agree with our freedom of religion as it is in our constitution. So by killing us, they think we will conform which is BS.

Sorry if this post sounds lame, im only 18 and havent really had time to formulate much of an opionion on politics, aside from agreeing with radio talk show host michael savage about the damn liberals fucking all our shit up.

[Ran]

Originally posted by RevHappy Cowboy®
Let's go kill Saddam blah blah blah....it's all about the oil, it was the oil in the Gulf war, it will be the oil in this war, all it ever does is jack up the gasoline prices

write man!!! we will kill sadam just like this:badass:

[Oz]

Originally posted by 123


write man!!! we will kill sadam just like this:badass:

Fuck off idiot

[Ran]

whats the problem?

[taranaki]

Problem is, you are making dumb statements.

The world does not need any more armchair generals.It's bad enough that a man of such limited IQ has ended up as President of the U.S. without every half-witted redneck jumping on the war wagon.