First post with new car!

[GForce957]

Originally Posted by Chiquae07

i agree with ya gforce but,

how should i say this.

if i would have put on the t28 set up that i bought a year ago and sold 3 months ago, i would be putting around 300whp for about 3k. too bad if i actually installed it, i would have blew up my transmission, and would have gone into broken piston ring land. i would also not have a car.

"Not to mention the piston rings you fried. Now me and the mad scientist have to tear apart the block." - bad F&F quote
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haha yeah, I didnt mean buying the FI setup and have it break stuff, just that if you have a choice between NA and FI like in this case where the tranny would be fine, I would go FI. He would most likely need to upgrade his clutch tho. I dont know how great the SI's is, but the RSX didnt last too long with 270ish whp.

[BlackGT2000]

^^From my understanding, there is little difference between the new SI and an RSX type S.

[GForce957]

Originally Posted by BlackGT2000

^^From my understanding, there is little difference between the new SI and an RSX type S.

Yeah, just some slight stuff, I believe the RSX makes more power and has greater modding capability, but the SI has LSD. I dont know if they upgraded things like the clutch and such.

[CassiesMan]

Originally Posted by Chiquae07

"Not to mention the piston rings you fried. Now me and the mad scientist have to tear apart the block." - bad F&F quote

I have this strong feeling that if your boost spike with nitrous was so bad to blow out your floor board, the pistons would be the least of your worries.

[BlackGT2000]

Originally Posted by GForce957

Yeah, just some slight stuff, I believe the RSX makes more power and has greater modding capability, but the SI has LSD. I dont know if they upgraded things like the clutch and such.

I was not aware that the engine was different at all. What I understood was that when the SI came out, the engine was going to be rated at 200 Hp but because of the new hp ratings, they could only rate it at 197. I didn't think there were any actual mechanical differences that would limit its output to less than that of the RSXS. I am not calling you out haha. I just was not aware of a power difference, or that mods would be different between the two. I don't know though, I looked at the SI only for a limited time and I am by no means an expert.

[GForce957]

I believe the engine in the SI is the K20Z3, the engine in the 05-06 rsx-s is the K20Z1 and the 04 rsx is the k20a2

[Chiquae07]

Originally Posted by CassiesMan

I have this strong feeling that if your boost spike with nitrous was so bad to blow out your floor board, the pistons would be the least of your worries.

yea. i would be afraid of not winning the cash, and the respect. and i live my life at a 1/4mile at a time. i beat a guy to death with bad car facts.

on a serious note, i dont think the tuner community would be the same w/o F&F. brought in a lot more parts, and cars developed just for being quick. hell, the ms3 might not even exist.

[90CorollaSR5]

Originally Posted by GForce957

I believe the engine in the SI is the K20Z3, the engine in the 05-06 rsx-s is the K20Z1 and the 04 rsx is the k20a2

you're right, the engines are quite different. MAF, balance shafts, intake manifold, head etc. it's like a k20a2 (04 rsx) & k24a2 (tsx) hybrid.

[CassiesMan]

Originally Posted by Chiquae07

on a serious note, i dont think the tuner community would be the same w/o F&F. brought in a lot more parts, and cars developed just for being quick. hell, the ms3 might not even exist.

I wouldn't go as far to say cars like the MS3 and such wouldn't exist, it is a natural extension of the Mazda3 series, much like the MSP Protege. However, I don't think the sport compact segment would be half as well known as it is now without that movie. I didn't know about half the cars that were in that movie until I saw it. I can tell you I wouldn't be half as much into cars as I am now if it weren't for that movie. And I'll see the fourth one on opening day, just as I did the first three, because if nothing else, it is fun to go in, turn off your brain, eat some popcorn and just have a good time.

Back on topic, however, I can see where boost would be cost prohibitive with the tranny issues. I'm starting to see a new resurgance of more power, high rev NA cars where boost is cost prohibitive. Instead of incuring massive debt in going with a 2JZ-GTE turbo swap with a stronger six speed in his IS300, for example, my buddy is going to do a long term high revving NA build on his 2JZ-GE IS300. Sure, he could get gobs more power by just heading down to MVP or Power House or Boost Logic, but the cost is just obscene, especially considering the car is his daily driver and he can't really let it be down for the time to do the swap.

That, and as cool as turbo'd Hondas tend to be, some one has to rep the high rev NAs out there.

[rice(er)]

you have one of the best 4 banger n/a known to man, and this is coming from a hardcore toyota fan.

imho, keep it n/a, hondata that thing and run 13s daily driven, 12s ain't far either.

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by rice(er)

you have one of the best 4 banger n/a for gas and reliabilityknown to man, and this is coming from a hardcore toyota fan.

imho, keep it n/a, hondata that thing and run 13s daily driven, 12s ain't far either.

fixed it for you.

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by CassiesMan

That, and as cool as turbo'd Hondas tend to be, some one has to rep the high rev NAs out there.

::Raises hand slowly:: Though i'm sure you were talking strictly about hondas and not the RX-8

[CassiesMan]

Originally Posted by Gotian

::Raises hand slowly:: Though i'm sure you were talking strictly about hondas and not the RX-8

Four rotor for the win. Do it now.

[-The Stig-]

When it comes to N/A power and reliability the last car I think of is Rx-8.

Sorry. Fun car to drive though, that I will say it is.

[CassiesMan]

Originally Posted by -The Stig-

When it comes to reliability the last car I think of is Rx-Anything.

Even more true.