Stroker, High reving, spooling... - Page 2

david-b · #16 10-16-2007, 12:06 PM

No I haven't looked into that yet. But I'm going to look into that. How much work is involved in this? If there's custom fab involved... it's not happening.

I'm looking to (after the build + tune) be at about 300-400hp. 350 would be perfect... however I know I'm still always going to be pushing for more power even after that. The motor itself I want to be able to handle 550hp no problem. Again, used as DD and some track use. Would not be driven hard all the time.

SilvrEclipse · #17 10-16-2007, 12:16 PM

Check out 2gnt. All the info is on there.

defiancy · #18 10-16-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by david-b

No I haven't looked into that yet. But I'm going to look into that. How much work is involved in this? If there's custom fab involved... it's not happening.

I'm looking to (after the build + tune) be at about 300-400hp. 350 would be perfect... however I know I'm still always going to be pushing for more power even after that. The motor itself I want to be able to handle 550hp no problem. Again, used as DD and some track use. Would not be driven hard all the time.

I would look more towards a 51 trim or perhaps a 20g. Those turbos would fit more inline with your goals, and with a stroker those turbos would hit full boost with a quickness.

I'm not sure what is entailed, but someone on here told me that the mounts are pretty similar. (Both engines line up the same way) I would imagine other than the engine and tranny, you would need an ECU and a engine wiring harness. MAYBE a cabin harness, or perhaps some rewiring of the exsisting harness.

NateS · #19 10-16-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxeclipse97

They do make 7-bolt strokers that can rev to 8k, but on the flip side of that you are going to need a turbo and cams that will support that kind of power.

The block in my car is a 7-bolt stroker (2.3L). Shaun(owner of extreme motorsports) told me with this particular setup and proper supporting mods I can take it to 8.5K RPMS no problem.

100mm Eagle crank
Manley H beam "turbo tuff" rods
Wiesco Pistons (+.020")
+some other needed parts(ie. hardware)

david-b · #20 10-16-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Just a GSX fan

The block in my car is a 7-bolt stroker (2.3L). Shaun(owner of extreme motorsports) told me with this particular setup and proper supporting mods I can take it to 8.5K RPMS no problem.

They also said you were going to get it sooner... and a bunch of other stuff.

tfoti · #21 10-16-2007, 04:07 PM

I went with a stroker because I will probably never see the track and plan on having it as my DD for awhile. It just feels good to know that I have plenty of headroom for bigger turbos. I just can't wait to finally get 'er in there.

Thor06 · #22 10-16-2007, 04:49 PM

I'm a 2.0 man all the way. The other thing with a 2.0 is that when you get a mid sized turbo (like a 50 trim to support 350-400 hp) it wont be spooling much during norml low RPM driving. Thats one thing that drives me nuts about the 16g, it seems its spooled all the time and when I am just bumming around I would rather not be using the gas needed to do that. I know a guy that threw a 35R on his car and got IIRC like 2-3 mpg better because he wasnt spooling during normal driving.

NateS · #23 10-16-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by david-b

They also said you were going to get it sooner... and a bunch of other stuff.

Haha true. Guess I will have to test these things out myself then...

vanilla gorilla · #24 10-17-2007, 12:26 AM

Whats this about a 4g64 swap? That would be sooo much work. My 4g64 sits on the opposite side of the engine bay than the 420a. It would basically be like swapping in a 4g63 which is no small task. Which you might as well swap in a 4g63t.

Unless you are talking about swapping in a late model eclipse 4g64 or a galant 4g64 since they sit on the same side of the engine bay as a 420a, but I've never heard of anyone doing this.

Thor06 · #25 10-17-2007, 07:01 AM

420a's can be stroked too vanilla. Besides, a 2.4 isnt a "stroker" motor as it has the same stroke as it comes from the factory. A stroker is an engine with a lengthened stroke.

I would also like to point out that where this is some great 4g63 info, the 420a may have a different bore/stroke and the stroker 420a is a 2.2 IIRC so much of this may be irrelevant.

vanilla gorilla · #26 10-17-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Thor06

420a's can be stroked too vanilla. Besides, a 2.4 isnt a "stroker" motor as it has the same stroke as it comes from the factory. A stroker is an engine with a lengthened stroke.

Yes I know this. I was refering to the comment made by SilvrEclipse on page one. He said something about dropping in a 4g64.

SilvrEclipse · #27 10-17-2007, 01:21 PM

The 2.4 motor is not the eclipse 2.4. It comes from a different car, its not a direct swap, it does require some fabrication but I think it would be worth it.

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?a...2252&mode=full
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?a...1958&mode=full
http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=2.4L...20by%20Skrilla

david-b · #28 10-17-2007, 01:34 PM

Too much fab is involved. I haven't welded or done anything of that sort ever. And I don't feel like paying someone who has no idea to do it. Does seem interesting though.

vanilla gorilla · #29 10-17-2007, 02:44 PM

Just when I thought I knew everything, I learn something new. Interesting. I'm going to read up on this just for the fun of it.

SilvrEclipse · #30 10-17-2007, 06:27 PM

Could you stoke the 2.4 out? Or is the stroke in it already pretty long in order to get the extra dissplacement?

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