Eclipse GSX V.S Maxima

[Spazpilot]

97 eclipse gst 15.1 1/4 mile
00 maxima se 15.9 1/4 mile
98 eclipse gsx 15.4 1/4 mile
both the awd and fwd will beat the maxima based on r@t. performance wise go with the eclipse. previous car 97 eclipse gst with mods 11.96 at 123. haven't seen a maxima do those times

[srumel92]

does anyone know what to expect out of a remanufactured 92 eclipse gsx engine from japan also are there any differences to the stock engine????

[Zero8985]

Originally posted by benleyd19tx
Turbo, supercharged......N/A'd, it doesn't matter!!!! It's all about Power x wieght - traction. A 225 h.p. maxima that wieghs 3500 lbs on a FWD drivtrian (the worst to have for traction!!) Vs. A 190 h.p. 3200 car with all wheel drive (the best for traction) will beat the wild crap out of a max. And if for nothing else.... I see these two cars race all the time. The slightly less powerful, much lighter car with FAR SUPERIOR TRACTION owns the max. And a Gs-Turbo will too b/c it still has 190 h.p., but only wieghs 2700 lbs. Just for future use....It's a general rule of thumb that a 100lb increase is equivelent to having about 10 less h.p.
So 3500lb Max @ 225 h.p. , and a 2700lb GS-T @ 190h.p. =800lb difference and only 30 h.p. which translates to Taillights for the maxima.
and vs. the 3200lb eclipse = 300 lb difference which will tie or beat the max alone + having 4 wheels of traction (being able to luanch at 5000 +rpms and barely spin the tires one rotation = again.....tailights for the Maxima!!

I dunno where you get your info from... but all GS-Ts and GSXs have 210 horsepower stock, and the worst drivetrain for traction is rwd. Fwd is worst for power. But i agree that the eclipse would beat the Maxima SE, except if it comes up to the 2003 maxima, that one is sorta ifey.

[SledgehammerVette]

Originally posted by Spazpilot
97 eclipse gst 15.1 1/4 mile
00 maxima se 15.9 1/4 mile
98 eclipse gsx 15.4 1/4 mile
both the awd and fwd will beat the maxima based on r@t. performance wise go with the eclipse. previous car 97 eclipse gst with mods 11.96 at 123. haven't seen a maxima do those times

Sorry but a 00 Maxima SE does not do 15.9 in the 1/4 mile. Even the automatic does not do that! Stock a 95-98 Maxima 5-Spd will run 14.7 (with a good driver). It's usually 14.9-15.2. Autos do about 15.1 to 15.5.

00 Maxima does about the same as the 95-98 even though it has 222HP. It's the increased weight that slows it down.

And if you even think about racing a 2k2 or 2k3, you'll get your ass handed too you. 6-Spds stock do 14.4-14.8. Autos run 14.6-15.0.

[Polygon]

Yes, simply put, the GSX will beat a Nissan Maxima stock for stock. I have beaten a mid 90's Maxima in a beat out Chrysler Mini-Van.

[SledgehammerVette]

Originally posted by Polygon
Yes, simply put, the GSX will beat a Nissan Maxima stock for stock. I have beaten a mid 90's Maxima in a beat out Chrysler Mini-Van.

You beat a Maxima in a beat up Mini-Van? :what: Sorry, I'm just not going to believe that one. Either he had a major problem or he didn't know that you were racing. Maximas aren't slow.

Yes I think a GSX could take or even beat the Maxima, but it's not going to be by 4 cars or whatever.

[TatII]

the 4th gen max's are around the same speed as a 4th gen prelude. and the 5th gen maxima's are still faster then most sport compact cars. a early 5th gen can dash from 0-60 in 6.9 seconds, and can runt he quarter in like 15.2. now thats with the VQ30DE and a 5 speed. now if you compare yourself to a 2k2 and 2k3 fifth gen. those runs on a VQ35DE with 255hp on a car that weights 3200. and that car can run 0-60 in 6 flat and run the quarter in 14.7 that is faster then any stock eclipse out. and faster then any stock DSM period. and why dont' you GSX guys race the 5 or 6 speed max from a roll. all of the sudden your AWD is just dead weight and added powertrain lose. and polygon, most people dont' max's in manuel. those are pretty rare cars on its own. most people buy maximas to cruise and it is sort of luxury. so most maxima's you see are auto. and there is a hugh and i mean hugh difference in speed between a auto and a 5 speed max. the auto max is ussually around 1 second slower then a manuel max.

[SledgehammerVette]

Originally posted by TatII
the 4th gen max's are around the same speed as a 4th gen prelude. and the 5th gen maxima's are still faster then most sport compact cars. a early 5th gen can dash from 0-60 in 6.9 seconds, and can runt he quarter in like 15.2. now thats with the VQ30DE and a 5 speed. now if you compare yourself to a 2k2 and 2k3 fifth gen. those runs on a VQ35DE with 255hp on a car that weights 3200. and that car can run 0-60 in 6 flat and run the quarter in 14.7 that is faster then any stock eclipse out. and faster then any stock DSM period. and why dont' you GSX guys race the 5 or 6 speed max from a roll. all of the sudden your AWD is just dead weight and added powertrain lose. and polygon, most people dont' max's in manuel. those are pretty rare cars on its own. most people buy maximas to cruise and it is sort of luxury. so most maxima's you see are auto. and there is a hugh and i mean hugh difference in speed between a auto and a 5 speed max. the auto max is ussually around 1 second slower then a manuel max.

Very well put! From a roll the Maxima will own the DSM. From a stand still the DSM will have a better chance, but the Max will probably pull pretty damn hard. The 95-99 Max's don't have the greatest top end because they don't have a VI. But if you ever run across a modded Maxima, be careful they may have a MEVI (Middle Eastern Variable Intake), which gives tons of power on the top end.

Both cars are pretty equally matched. If the guy knows how to drive his GSX, he will beat or hang with the Maxima. But if you have a good driver in the Maxima, it's going to be over from the start.

[Polygon]

Originally posted by SledgehammerVette


You beat a Maxima in a beat up Mini-Van? :what: Sorry, I'm just not going to believe that one. Either he had a major problem or he didn't know that you were racing. Maximas aren't slow.

Yes I think a GSX could take or even beat the Maxima, but it's not going to be by 4 cars or whatever.

So, I never asked you to believe me, I really don't care if you do or not. Trust me, he was racing though, he has that engine pushing all it had. Low to mid 90s Maximas are slow. I am not saying the new ones aren't, I know they can get up and move.

[totallyEclipsed]

eclipse 0 to 60 mph 6.5 sec
1/4 mile (E.T.) 15.1 sec

maxima 0-60 MPH 7.5 Seconds
1/4 mile (E.T.) 16.0 seconds 89.5 mph
Top speed 120 mph

here are tge stock maxima stats
Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price $ 23,499
Price As Tested $ 28,036
Engine Type DOHC 24-valve 3.0 Liter V6 w/SMFI*
Engine Size 182 cid/2988 cc
Horsepower 190 @ 5600 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 205 @ 4000 RPM
Wheelbase/Width/Length 106.3"/69.7"/189.4"
Transmission Five-speed manual
Curb Weight 3038 pounds
Fuel Capacity 18.5 gallons
Tires (F/R) 215/55R16 All-Season
Brakes (F/R) Disc /disc
Drive Train Front-engine/front-wheel-drive
Vehicle Type Five-passenger/four-door
Domestic Content N/A
Coefficient of Drag (Cd.) 0.32

PERFORMANCE

EPA Economy, miles per gallon
city/highway/average 22/27/26
0-60 MPH 7.5 Seconds
1/4 mile (E.T.) 16.0 seconds 89.5 mph
Top speed 120 mph
* Sequential multi-point fuel injection


and here is for the eclipse

SPECIFICATIONS

Base Price $ 26,550
Price As Tested $ 27,055
Engine Type 16-valve dual overhead cam
turbocharged 4-cylinder
Engine Size 2.0 liters / 122 cu. in.
Horsepower 210 @ 6000 rpm
Torque (lb-ft) 214 @ 3000 rpm
Transmission 5-speed manual
Wheelbase / Length 98.8 in. / 172.4 in.
Curb Weight 3157 lbs.
Pounds Per Horsepower 15.0
Fuel Capacity 15.9 gal.
Fuel Requirement unleaded premium (91 octane)
Tires P215 / 50 VR17 Goodyear Eagle RS-A
Brakes, front/rear vented disc / disc, antilock standard
Suspension, front/rear independent multi-link with coil springs/
independent multi-link with coil springs
Drivetrain front engine, all-wheel drive

PERFORMANCE
EPA Fuel Economy - miles per gallon
city / highway / observed 21 / 28 / 23
0 to 60 mph 6.5 sec
1/4 mile (E.T.) 15.1 sec
Coefficient of Drag (cd) 0.30


who would win stock? you tell me

[TatII]

your comparing it to the 4th gen maxima's. even though those aren't slow but they are slow compared to the 3.5 liter 5th gen max's. and like i said. even though the stock eclipse numbers are impressive, a stock 5th gen max will beat the eclipse by a good amount. maybe around 4 cars. casue its still .5 seconds faster to 60 and on the 1/4.

[SledgehammerVette]

Sorry a 4th Gen does not do 0-60 in 7.5 and does not do the 1/4 mile in 16.0. That is the worst time I have ever seen. Did you pull this out of a magazine? Who gives a shit about magazine racing, it you want to race the Maxima, go and do it, if you lose you lose, if you win you win.

Like I said earlier a 4th Gen will do 0-60 in about 6.5-7.0.
1/4 mile ranges from 14.7-15.3 (both auto and 5-spd).

A 4th Gen 5-Spd and an Eclipse GSX will be close no doubt about it. Even a 5th Gen (2000-01) and Eclipse GSX will be close. But a GSX against a 5th Gen (2002-03), will get raped badly. The GSX may get it off the line, but the 5th Gen has so much power he'll be by you before you can say holy shit.

[BlOOe46]

lol . . .

i dont think anyone, including myself, has ever said 'holy shit' about a maxima's acceleration before - could be wrong tho???

[SledgehammerVette]

If he blows by you he'll be saying it.

Or step into a turbocharged Max then see what comes out of your mouth.

[BlOOe46]

sorry, ive never been impressed by a max

u can turbocharge just about anything with even remotely strong internals, it doesnt necesarrily mean the cars going to be fast or reliable

personally, ive never seen a FI max, all the maxes ive seen are 15-16 second cars . . . if u want to modify a max, more power to u . . . but ive just never seen a huge aftermarket response to maxs besides CAI, headers, exhaust - all the poser goodies, oh yeah, dont forget clear corners and fog lights, now automatically their car is fast

if u or any of ur friends has a HO max, thats cool, cuz thats a new thing for me . . . im just sort of taking a cheap swing at all the maxs i see that want to be fast, they are to an extent, but ive never had one make me say 'holy shit' before

btw . . . i only really say holy shit if theres something rare on the road, which is hardly ever, i mean, it really takes a lot for me to say holy shit

the last time i said holy shit about a car, i remember, was when i saw a high 13 sec f350 running with a lightning, now that was some drag race