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Old 10-26-2002, 11:47 PM
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yeah, dude...enhanced oxygen does in fact help combustion, thus we have turbo. HOWEVER, pure oxygen is highly flammable. The friction caused by rubbing your hand against your shirt will make enough heat to cause combustion in a pure O2 environment. You need outside gasses, (Nitrogen, Carbon Dioxide, et al.) to bring down these combustive properties.
This could go places, however, I would be interested to see it as an alternative to all common forced induction systems. Isn't how they made the blues brothers car, so it could drive underwater?
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yeah, dude...enhanced oxygen does in fact help combustion, thus we have turbo. HOWEVER, pure oxygen is highly flammable. The friction caused by rubbing your hand against your shirt will make enough heat to cause combustion in a pure O2 environment. You need outside gasses, (Nitrogen, Carbon Dioxide, et al.) to bring down these combustive properties.
This could go places, however, I would be interested to see it as an alternative to all common forced induction systems. Isn't how they made the blues brothers car, so it could drive underwater?
Once again it is being stated that pure oxygen is highly flamable. This is NOT the case. No fuel, no fire. Pure oxygen is a very dangerous material and is a fire hazard but only because it makes other things burn, not because it combusts. As ivymike1031 had previously stated, aluminum burns quite nice in a pure O2 environment. I wouldn't doubt this, however it is testimony to my statement. Aluminum is the fuel and oxygen is the oxidizer, you do need both. ivymike1031 hit it on the nose when he said that oxygen won't react with itself, but it will with almost everything else. Fireinthesky28 I am in agreement with you in part. The outside gasses like nitrogen and carbon dioxide don't really stabalize oxygen's combustive properties as they due reduce our atmosphere's oxidization properties. Oxidization is obviously the key to combustion, so basically these other gasses that dilude our atmosphere to a mere 21% oxygen, keep the oxygen from reacting with everything it comes in contact with. Anyways, I am probably not qualified to give a chemistry lesson, so I will leave it at this. If you want to dump pure oxygen into your engine I suggest settling for a nitrous oxide kit, they have already done the work to make sure that it is safe in your engine. I did all of this homework for you 8 years ago when I was installing a liquid oxygen tank in a 16V Jetta GLI. Lucky for me I did my homework before I road tested.
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just on an anal/technicality point. In the real world no matter how you use pure O2 there will always ba a fuel. whether it be the sweater you rub your hand against or the bottle you store it in or the dust particles in the air (not sure if they count though).
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just on an anal/technicality point. In the real world no matter how you use pure O2 there will always ba a fuel. whether it be the sweater you rub your hand against or the bottle you store it in or the dust particles in the air (not sure if they count though).
As a chemist, I have used high pressure pure oxygen. There are special procedures and fittings and gaskets needed to use it safely. And, the dust IS important. Before putting the piping together, you have to try to wipe out all dust particles before opening up the high pressure O2 or the dust can burst into flame on contact. If there's a trace of oil in the piping, it can explode when the O2 is released. I know of a case similar to this where this happened and the user was killed.
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I drink liquid oxygen for breakfast instead of coffee. I think that it makes me run faster and jump higher.

Take the chemist's advise (sciguyjim), and live to start another thread .
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