Starting Problem

[hendrix3511]

I would try replacing the ignition swith, I got one for $40 at a junk yard and it took me a couple of hours to do. They seem to go out on the intrigue a lot so if you get the part pretty cheap, it seems like a good thing to do to eliminate it for sure before you start looking at the computer.

[olds409]

I feel your pain. My 2000 intrigue is doing the same thing.I replaced Pcm, Still working on it.Will keep you posted.

[panzer dragoon]

If you turn the ignition switch and the engine does not turn over:

1. Battery/corrosion issues
2. starter/solenoid corrosion issues
3. Ignition switch (common intrigue problem) -if you hear the solenoid click (by turning the key to start) it's not the ignition switch.

[o2man]

I have a 1999 Intrigue with the 3.8. Some days it fires right up then some days it sounds at start up like it's running on three cylinders, after multiple tries or letting it sit, it will start and run smooth. No codes ever thrown, changed plugs, wires, FPR,PCV, fuel filter, pump relay. It started one and a half days without a hitch and i thought I fixed it, but it started again. Down to fuel pump, coil packs,vaccum lines, ignition switch. The car runs very good once started but I noticed a skip not bad but there is one just holding the throttle @ 4000 rpm. Any suggestions before spending more money and time chasing the tiger ?

[panzer dragoon]

Originally Posted by o2man

I have a 1999 Intrigue with the 3.8. Some days it fires right up then some days it sounds at start up like it's running on three cylinders, after multiple tries or letting it sit, it will start and run smooth. No codes ever thrown, changed plugs, wires, FPR,PCV, fuel filter, pump relay. It started one and a half days without a hitch and i thought I fixed it, but it started again. Down to fuel pump, coil packs,vaccum lines, ignition switch. The car runs very good once started but I noticed a skip not bad but there is one just holding the throttle @ 4000 rpm. Any suggestions before spending more money and time chasing the tiger ?

-add cps to that list, but I have the LX5. -Usually hard starting with a bad cps, codes can be questionable.

[LittleHoov]

I would agree with the CPS (crankshaft position sensor). They are a common failure point, not too hard to replace on the 3.5 either.

[panzer dragoon]

-this is misleading:
For this forum <2010
CPS -camshaft position sensor (I believe this is your fault)
CKP -crankshaft position sensor

-Usually both go out on the 3.5L (LX5) -I have replaced both (2000 Intrigue) and the cps only takes about 10 minutes and $40. CKP is about $80 and 2hrs (remove starter)

>2010
they are now calling the cps a cmp for camshaft position sensor. I would like to drop the cps because it could mean both crank or cam position sensor and just go with cmp.

[krivasauto]

FOR THE 3.5L (RPO LX5)

CKP:




CMP:

[o2man]

Think the 3.8 would be close to the same ?

[maxwedge]

The cps on the 3800 requires removing the balancer.

[panzer dragoon]

The camshaft position sensor on the 3800 is a pain = easier to replace the ckp and cmp (both) on the LX5.

Check this forum for the info or look at the Grand Prix (GP)(3800) info at the top of the forum. There is a very good info on this with pictures.