Evo vs. STi

[Right_LiRrr]

Originally Posted by freakray

After I reread both I posts I realised you had said that

hahaha, yeah i was just kidding around mate.

Originally Posted by freakray

There's no argument though, if two Scooby folk from the opposite side of the world say the same thing, it must be true

yup!

[RACER D12]

Originally Posted by eps

Why would he not be able to have a turbo timer with the stock turbo?

All a turbo timer does is hook up to the ignition and keep the car running when you take the keys out.

That’s not how the turbo timer in my 951 works. My car came stock with a turbo timer and what it does is run a little pump that goes to the turbo, not the whole car. Plus I think my turbo is also water cooled. And from what the guys say on rennlist.com not having a turbo timer severely shortens the life of your turbo water cooled or not. However my car is much older then your guys so I don’t know if the set up on the STI is different. I imagine the STI is much more advanced so maybe. All I know is my car is at 96K and the turbo runs like a champ so Porsche did something right.

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by freakray

I've got a friend with stage 2 on his STI and some of the things you say don't make any sense, in fact I tempted to believe the guy was more a poser than anything.

If he was running a turbo timer, he's not running the factory turbo which means he's actually stage 3.
Also, stage 2 with a pro-tune should be in the 360hp range. Stage 1 gets you into the 330hp range.

So, either you're making some things up to give yourself some extra cred or the guy was full of shit and led you a story.

I don't doubt you could beat him, but I know enough about modding Subies to know that if he had the mods you're claiming, it should have been a lot more than a little close.

OK fair enough. I'm not making things up though. What I initially posted was, as best as I can remember, all of the things the guy told me. The turbo timer was there. That much I'm sure of. As far as the flash, he definately said it was a 91 octane, stage 2 map and he had Cobb Accessport. He also told me he was getting boost creep before the tune because he wasn't running a cat. He had an aftermarket downpipe (no cats) and one of those angled exit JDM cat-back exhausts. I think that was it for hardware modifications. He was a little cocky but he didn't strike me as a bullshitter. He seemed to know what he was talking about. The only thing he said that made me do a double take was when he asked how much boost I was running. When I told him 22lbs he said "cool...me too". I know that's impossible on the stocker - or at least well out of the efficiency range if it's possible. Other than that he seemed to have a pretty good idea of what was going on under his hood.

[Musashi3000GT]

STi's are a bitch to mod. Still I know two STi owners that have pluged Turbo timers to thier stock turbos. I know of one who added a BOV to the stock ar which is also an really stupid thing to do on an STi and I know one kid at the nearby University who put his 05 STi on airbags. YES, AIRBAGS!

so yeah there are a few ricer STi owners out there.

[freakray]

Originally Posted by Musashi3000GT

STi's are a bitch to mod. Still I know two STi owners that have pluged Turbo timers to thier stock turbos. I know of one who added a BOV to the stock ar which is also an really stupid thing to do on an STi and I know one kid at the nearby University who put his 05 STi on airbags. YES, AIRBAGS!

so yeah there are a few ricer STi owners out there.

Yep, the whole BOV stupidity, another unecessary mod on an STI.

Unfortunately, there is that small group out there who simply mod their cars with absolutely NO understanding of what they're doing or why.

22lbs of boost on stock STI internals will destroy the internals pretty quickly.

If everything Steiner is saying this guy claimed, the kids a poser and Steiner needs to hand him his ass on a daily basis.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

enlighten me why is a BOV stupid on an STI?

Airbags are retarded whats the point in buying a car that has that much grip and great suspension and fitting airbags ..........

[freakray]

Originally Posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K

enlighten me why is a BOV stupid on an STI?

Airbags are retarded whats the point in buying a car that has that much grip and great suspension and fitting airbags ..........

You're not paying attention. Nobody said a BOV is stupid, the car comes with a stock BOV, the stupidity is replacing the stock BOV.

It's pretty evident around AF that not many folks outside the 10 or 12 Subaru enthusiasts on here actually know much about modding Impreza's.

[-The Stig-]

Finding somebody on AF who knows anything about Subaru's is like looking for a Unicorn...

[freakray]

Originally Posted by -The Stig-

Finding somebody on AF who knows anything about Subaru's is like looking for a Unicorn...

Are you call Keita, Jason_L, RL and a few others including myself a unicorn?

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K

enlighten me why is a BOV stupid on an STI?

I think he means a VTA BOV is bad. It's a bad idea on any MAF equipped vehicle.

[-The Stig-]

Originally Posted by freakray

Are you call Keita, Jason_L, RL and a few others including myself a unicorn?

Yes, you're pretty to look at.

[Right_LiRrr]

Originally Posted by -The Stig-

Yes, you're pretty to look at.

I knew u loved us

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

Originally Posted by freakray

You're not paying attention. Nobody said a BOV is stupid, the car comes with a stock BOV, the stupidity is replacing the stock BOV.

It's pretty evident around AF that not many folks outside the 10 or 12 Subaru enthusiasts on here actually know much about modding Impreza's.

Originally Posted by freakray

Yep, the whole BOV stupidity, another unecessary mod on an STI.

Thats a bit of a harsh reaction to a question .

OK let me rephrase the question ... whats the problem in replacing the BOV?

[Right_LiRrr]

Originally Posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K

Thats a bit of a harsh reaction to a question .

OK let me rephrase the question ... whats the problem in replacing the BOV?

if u get one which recirculates it in the same way the factory one does, then no problems.

if u atmosphere vent, the car runs rich. cos in the system, the air sensor is placed in such a place that if u vent the compressed air through the BOV, the system doesn't realise the air is gone and it will cause the car to run rich.

[freakray]

And yet, even a recirc system can be bad if you don't tune the car after replacing it.

Basically, if you're not changing anything else in the system, the BOV should be left alone.