grinding in third gear - Page 2

Christ · #16 08-28-2006, 12:15 AM

@STS turbo kit... that's nothing new.. it was on firebirds (I'm pretty sure) as a stock option in the 80's... it was called a "rear mounted turbo" I believe.. I'll have to check up on that again.

FrodoGT · #17 08-28-2006, 01:56 AM

I dont think I have used the clutch to come out of 5th gear in damn near 6 months... just let off and tap it back, pop..out it goes.

Christ · #18 08-28-2006, 04:12 AM

yep, it's called neutral shifting... if you're really good, you can actually shift w/o the clutch completely doing that... no gear grinding, etc. Just pull/push the shifter toward the next gear, (upshifting) and wait for the engine to spin down from revs, it will just pop into gear with a lil pressure...

Down shifting w/o the clutch can be done too, relatively easy, but if you're going to do it, practice on a tranny you don't care about.. you may damage it severely...
1. lift off the gas as you're pulling the selector out of gear
2. get back on the gas as you're going to the next gear.
3. apply moderate to light pressure to the shifter, it will pop in as the engine reaches the correct speed for the gear.

Prolly shouldn't do this to decelerate... puts alot of stress on the gears, unless you know the RPM you should be at to down shift, and you can get it just past it enough that it will "float" into gear as you're letting off the gas.

I usually downshift with the clutch, clutch it, keep my foot on the gas, (for acceleration) and put it in the next gear down, then jump off the clutch when the engine is close to the right RPM... saves wear on the clutch and it's better for acceleration.

To decelerate however, I follow ALMOST the same procedure, except instead of keeping my foot on the gas, I just tap it to get it up to the right RPM, then lift off the clutch lightly, as with normal driving, also saves wear on the clutch lining.. Honestly, I"d rather pay more for gas than have to tear my tranny out to replace a clutch.

hondacivic99sivtec · #19 08-28-2006, 06:02 AM

i don't use that method, i just double clutch going into 3rd. it also allows more time for that spin down thing.

hondacivic99sivtec · #20 08-28-2006, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr0pZ0n3

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To decelerate however, I follow ALMOST the same procedure, except instead of keeping my foot on the gas, I just tap it to get it up to the right RPM, then lift off the clutch lightly, as with normal driving, also saves wear on the clutch lining.. Honestly, I"d rather pay more for gas than have to tear my tranny out to replace a clutch.

isn't this how your suppose to downshift?
'cause my dad taught me the same thing way back in the day. lol, that makes me feel old.

Christ · #21 08-28-2006, 03:02 PM

Nah, most ppl that I know just lift off the gas completely, then clutch out of gear, hold the clutch, into next gear, and slip the clutch back in.

As far as I'm concerned, your father is a wise man in teaching you the method that you use. Which, in turn, makes you wise for continuing to use it

I wish my dad would have had the time to teach me to drive... I learned from a guy that I was working on race cars with... he took me on a gravel hill in a 4 speed camaro... "Spin the tyres, I smackin you!" "Don' use parkin brake!" "DON' BURN MY CLOOTCH" lol.. (he was dutch.)

DirtyD777 · #22 08-28-2006, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr0pZ0n3

I learned from a guy that I was working on race cars with... he took me on a gravel hill in a 4 speed camaro... "Spin the tyres, I smackin you!" "Don' use parkin brake!" "DON' BURN MY CLOOTCH" lol.. (he was dutch.)

lol!

89civicRicer · #23 08-30-2006, 10:22 PM

i drive a 89 hatch and my third gear grinds too when i shift.. ive been told by several people its the synchros.... whats double clutching? and is it different or any better then regular shifting im only 17 and i was just taught the push clutch in and hold, shift, and release clutch method

FrodoGT · #24 08-31-2006, 07:58 PM

Double clutchin is when you cllutch in, shift to neutral, let the clutch out..match your rpm with the next gear, clutch in, and shift. When you go into neutral and let the clutch out, you lock the trans to the engine, allowing you to control the speed that it spins with the engine, and if your good, you can get it to almost exactly the same rpm that it would be spinning if it were in the next higher or lower gear, that way..they are both spinning the same speed when you clutch in again and shift.

thefooshmeister · #25 09-01-2006, 05:04 PM

what is that lucas stuff? my buddy has a prelude and his 5th gear synch is grindin a little. should we just go to heavier fluid and try it out?

2poor2tune · #26 09-01-2006, 05:39 PM

ahhhhhhhhhhh . what are you guys talking about. j/k i hate reading this much. but i remember somone saying that only ricers have short shifters. and my comment is there is such thing as a short throw short shifter and that is one of the best ones out there. made by b&m. and i love the look of the knob hitting the boot instead of it having 2 inches of ugly metel on your shifter. mine is off ebay but works real well. 11 bucks. cant beat that but back to topic im gring in 3rd also but that is a real common problem with the 90-93 teg trannys i guess. which is what im rockin as of now.

viper-blue · #27 09-01-2006, 08:40 PM

a lot of guys on here suggest using gm synchromesh. Its good stuff. No noise or anything from the tranny. I got 2 liters of it for 15 bucks

FrodoGT · #28 09-02-2006, 02:41 AM

I am going to pick some of that stuff up tomorrow, Ill let you know how it goes, my 3rd grinds frequently now. YS1 93 teg tranny.

viper-blue · #29 09-02-2006, 01:33 PM

hey frodo thanx for your input last week about the possibility of my driver's side axle possibly breaking and popping outta the tranny...I thought my tranny was blown for sure...I was ripping around in traffic, went to pass a guy and then the car just lost all drive...turns out the tranny was fine, my driveaxle retaining circlip must have gave out cause after searching all over for an si tranny, and almost crying over the thought of putting a stupid dx tranny in cause I couldn't afford the 2 si trannys I found, I went out looked under the car, and noticed the inner cv spline was just slightly outta the tranny. I took the car apart, replaced my balljoint boots, popped a new circlip on, put in some gm synchromesh fluid and voila! The SI tranny lives on! It was your comment that made me check it out. Funny thing is the axle spline wasn't really far removed from the tranny, I wasn't sure that was the problem at first glance but alas the problem was solved..have never heard of a circlip giving out like that but for the 5 bucks the new one cost I sure made a point to replace it

FrodoGT · #30 09-02-2006, 04:32 PM

My drivers side didnt even have a the clip, and worked its way out, it couldnt come completely out but it did managed to cause the car to shudder horribly when downshifting and decellerating, I thought something was broken for sure, took a look under thecar and saw that the splines were only about 1/2" inside the Int. shaft. I was lucky enough to go down to autozone and they had a 91 integra axle that someone had returned for a core earlier that day, they let me pull whatever I wanted off of it for free.

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