25k to spend

[Dyno247365]

Originally Posted by PlayStation3

i don't look at them as import and domestic really i just look at them as a company and be sides if it is used then your money is NOT going to japan.

and besides look at your sig you have a chevy and a nissan umm same thing

I'm such a hypocrite, but I lean towards the american V8 now, hence why I'm selling the nissan. Thanks for answering my question.

Look everyone! a pure soul!

[blakscorpion21]

even if you buy a new import, most are assembled in the u.s. anyways. so your money is still going to americans as well. i dont see what the big deal is both america and japan are very capable of making good cars. neither one makes better cars.

[stamar]

um unquestionably a brand new miata. Lol I cant think of something more desirable.

I mean and get it brand new, do all the synthetic babying and everything

get leather, hard shocks. I mean what really compares? Something that ill last the rest of your life, or some life long headache that youll need to get a garage to tinker with in a corvette.

oh ya and its assembled IN japan. I dont even kno hat youre thinking about, why do you want it assembled in the us? So you can get some of that crappy us iring in it to corrode?

If you want to donate to us workers write them a checfk. dont buy stuff to support them. That makes no sense to me.

[blakscorpion21]

the english language...... learn it.

[stamar]

Originally Posted by blakscorpion21

the english language...... learn it.

I typed that with a bad keyboard on a laptop rocket scientist.

Your whole contribution was to post that I made spelling mistakes? I even got an email lol.

What a maroon. Thanks for using the message board.

the W doesnt work rocket scientist. Can you concentrate really hard and figure it out? Ommmmmm.

[blakscorpion21]

your post was incoherent and difficult to read without going back over the words. not to mention un-called for opinions about american build quality with nothing to back them up.

btw its moron, moroon is a color.

[PlayStation3]

plus a straight guy with a maita equals

um the sad part also is that mazda is OWNED by an AMERICAN company.

[triplerox]

i would suggest:

sti/evo (if you can find one at that price, if not go for WRX =])
m3
s2000
mk4 supra

[stamar]

Originally Posted by blakscorpion21

your post was incoherent and difficult to read without going back over the words. not to mention un-called for opinions about american build quality with nothing to back them up.

btw its moron, moroon is a color.

lolololol

Go ahead and look up maroon. In general it means something like a guy that lives in a cave in the mountains. A hermit mostly. In english. Learn it.

For data on automobile reliability the gold standard is going to be consumer reports. Do you know anything about vehicle reliability? No? I never would have guessed.
Ok well take a trip to the book store and go to the automobile section. Check out consumer reports guide on new vehicles, old vehicles, and the thick one that shows many years.

Ok heres what you need to look up because its not actually listed in that publication where cars are MADE, just the manufacturer.
Ok heres a good example:
Honda Prelude, Honda accord. Hmmm....
Mazda miata, Mazda 3. Hmmmm.....
infiniti q45, nissan maxima
Is there a pattern here? Its not in the scope of my time to teach you about the car industry. But, even if the engine and transmission are made in japan, many parts of the car still have to be bought from the local market. Things such as wiring, clutch plates wheels etc, it makes no sense to ship those from japan. And heres the REAL difference youre going to see especially if you go to a toyota dealer.

Check out the paint on a scion, cheapie model, and the paint on a corrola. Japanese paint is even way better. The japanese auto industry is more advanced than the american auto industry, all the little parts companies everything, its of higher quality. So a smart consumer would want a made in japan vehicle.

Have you learned anything? I dont have time to teach you everything you dont know about cars. But if you have a question, its time for you to start looking it up.

My most influential teacher in college had a great saying: "Someone who doesnt know is ignorant. Someone who doesnt know and doesnt want to know is an ignoramus. "

[stamar]

Originally Posted by PlayStation3

plus a straight guy with a maita equals

um the sad part also is that mazda is OWNED by an AMERICAN company.

Ive never seen a gay guy with a sports car. Thats a stereotype I never heard of. I had heard they liked audis. They like things that look nice, like a bmw.

Yes well thats what Im trying to show you. Some of the models called mazda are entirely made by ford, or partly made by ford. Such as the mazda b4000, mazda mpv etc. those are crappy. a mazda 3 has many parts made by ford euro which is still better than ford us, but not as reliable as mazda.

A mazda miata, rx-8 and older cars like the protege are all made in hiroshima. Entirely different car even though its still called mazda. That is the difference.
Even if this doesnt sink in to you I think it will sink in to someone who wants to understand the auto industry so I didnt waste my time typing it out on this screwed up keyboard.

[youngvr4]

hopefully you dont get anything to fast, you admitted you speed, this is dangerous

please! be carefull

[alphalanos]

You're too young. The End.

[youngvr4]

[blakscorpion21]

Originally Posted by stamar

lolololol

Go ahead and look up maroon. In general it means something like a guy that lives in a cave in the mountains. A hermit mostly. In english. Learn it.

For data on automobile reliability the gold standard is going to be consumer reports. Do you know anything about vehicle reliability? No? I never would have guessed.
Ok well take a trip to the book store and go to the automobile section. Check out consumer reports guide on new vehicles, old vehicles, and the thick one that shows many years.

Ok heres what you need to look up because its not actually listed in that publication where cars are MADE, just the manufacturer.
Ok heres a good example:
Honda Prelude, Honda accord. Hmmm....
Mazda miata, Mazda 3. Hmmmm.....
infiniti q45, nissan maxima
Is there a pattern here? Its not in the scope of my time to teach you about the car industry. But, even if the engine and transmission are made in japan, many parts of the car still have to be bought from the local market. Things such as wiring, clutch plates wheels etc, it makes no sense to ship those from japan. And heres the REAL difference youre going to see especially if you go to a toyota dealer.

Check out the paint on a scion, cheapie model, and the paint on a corrola. Japanese paint is even way better. The japanese auto industry is more advanced than the american auto industry, all the little parts companies everything, its of higher quality. So a smart consumer would want a made in japan vehicle.

Have you learned anything? I dont have time to teach you everything you dont know about cars. But if you have a question, its time for you to start looking it up.

My most influential teacher in college had a great saying: "Someone who doesnt know is ignorant. Someone who doesnt know and doesnt want to know is an ignoramus. "

to be marooned is to be lost. if calling someone a lost person is an insult then whatever.

and saying that mazdas are reliable is totally stupid. look at the mazda rotary engine, definitley not reliable. and look at mitsubishi, one of the most unreliable car makers. i know jap cars are in general more reliable but to say all american cars are unreliable is ignorant.

[stamar]

hey man check this out ok.

Google. maroon. Far out.


Ok well, a mazda made in japan would be significantly more reliable than a mazda made in the us or europe. Im pretty sure I said that, its a great example of this point.

So a mazda protege was made in japan. A mazda 626 was assembled in the us with some japanese parts. Ok hit consumer reports used car data on these models. Honda civic assembled in canada. Honda civic si assembled in japan. It is a direct and logical difference you can look up. Consumer reports data - made in japan - more reliable.

The closest brand that would buck this trend is toyota, its us plants seem to make vehicles close to as reliable as their japanese plants. Not as, but close. Ok camry made in the us, prius made in japan. Camry much less reliable but still excellent... corrolla is the highest rated vehicle assembled in the us, its almost as reliable as the toyota echo. but not quite.

You have noticed that toyota has 2 new brands, they are lexus and scion. Now concentrate, what is different about lexus, scion and toyota? Hmm.... bingo. All scions and all but one lexus are made in japan. Most toyotas are now made in North america. Now why is that? They dont seem to advertise it. Its because the right consumer just knows the difference.

Ok now a ford escort gt uses a mazda engine. Still not reliable. Its not the engine that will cause you problems.

You want a vehicle made in japan if you know anything about it. why do kids pimp the del sol out, but not the civic sedan with a bigger engine? Because they think its going to go the distance. And its assembled in japan.