Israel invades Lebanon...

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by RedLightning

I fail to see where this is un-justified, soldiers were kidnapted and Israel is going after them. I hope they come out alive.

Yeh bombings, tanks, and the whole fuckin army just for one guy and many civilians suffering for it. Sure its justified

[codycool]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

Ok first of all.. you're still wrong. I still dont see how its Muslims vs Jews here. All I get from you're post is trying to justify Israelis aggression. SO its ok that Israelis makes threats and get away with it? I know for DAMN SURE that when Saddam made threats the whole world went crazy. Why is it that Israeli gov't can get away with things while Castro/Saddam/Chavez/N.Korean President (forgot the name) etc...get there balls punched when they say somethings? Why is that when Ariel Sharon and that new goomba fucktard that took his place are making harsh threats and the world is blind and deaf? No one here knows what the Palistinians are goin through! They hardly have any nice areas for themselves. They have no income , no trade , proverty went to pile of shits because of the occupation. Dont they have the right to resist? Israel have been given a small portion of there land by the U.N. but no its not enough for the Israelis. So they took more by using aggression. Thats the truth and dont try to deny it.

Mellowboy you're ignorant!! Castro-because he is a dictator who runs a communist nation that wanted to help Russia put missles on his island. Saddam-because he invaded two countries, killed hundreds of thousands and has already used weapons of mass destruction. North korea-because they've invaded south korea and are a communist society.

We'll agree to disagree. That aside. Israel is going to stomp those islamic societies like they have for the past 5 times, and rightfully so.

[Moppie]

Originally Posted by codycool

Mellowboy you're ignorant!! Castro-because he is a dictator who runs a communist nation that wanted to help Russia put missles on his island. Saddam-because he invaded two countries, killed hundreds of thousands and has already used weapons of mass destruction. North korea-because they've invaded south korea and are a communist society.

We'll agree to disagree. That aside. Israel is going to stomp those islamic societies like they have for the past 5 times, and rightfully so.

I think you might be harbouring a little bit of bigotry, I suggest you put away, or get over it, this is not the place to display it.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by codycool

Mellowboy you're ignorant!! Castro-because he is a dictator who runs a communist nation that wanted to help Russia put missles on his island. Saddam-because he invaded two countries, killed hundreds of thousands and has already used weapons of mass destruction. North korea-because they've invaded south korea and are a communist society.

We'll agree to disagree. That aside. Israel is going to stomp those islamic societies like they have for the past 5 times, and rightfully so.

Likewise with Israel. They are no different. That was my point genius. Palistinians have nothing to defend themselves. Christians and Muslims Palistinians are fighting against the Israeli occupation. Every grammar school has a bully and you seem to root for the bullies that prey on the weak.

[codycool]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

Likewise with Israel. They are no different. That was my point genius. Palistinians have nothing to defend themselves. Christians and Muslims Palistinians are fighting against the Israeli occupation. Every grammar school has a bully and you seem to root for the bullies that prey on the weak.

Yes Israel is a bully with restraint. You keep poking him and he will rise and crush those who offend him. But would you really call a country the size of Deleware who is surrounded by enemies that would like nothing better than to "wipe it off the earth" a bully? I think not. Seems to me that the muslims are a paper tiger who has been called on their bluff. After all Islam is the religion of "peace."

Either way it was nice to know Lebanon and Palestine. If only the good old U.S of A had the nuts to clean house.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by codycool

Yes Israel is a bully with restraint. You keep poking him and he will rise and crush those who offend him. But would you really call a country the size of Deleware who is surrounded by enemies that would like nothing better than to "wipe it off the earth" a bully? I think not. Seems to me that the muslims are a paper tiger who has been called on their bluff. After all Islam is the religion of "peace."

Either way it was nice to know Lebanon and Palestine. If only the good old U.S of A had the nuts to clean house.

And you're calling me ignorant? Do children and innocent civilians have to die as well?

[codycool]

Originally Posted by Moppie

I think you might be harbouring a little bit of bigotry, I suggest you put away, or get over it, this is not the place to display it.

If what I'm saying is bigotry like you suggest, it seems this would be the perfect place to display it. Politics is bigotry my man.

[codycool]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

And you're calling me ignorant? Do children and innocent civilians have to die as well?

Your question is flawed. Give me a conflict that innocent civilians haven't been killed then I'll give you an answer. Children have been killed on both sides. Guess that means that this conflict shouldn't have even been started. Well talk to your palestinian believers of the peacefull allah, who decided to start this mess.

[mellowboy]

A biography of George Habash by Phillop Mattar

http://www.palestineremembered.com/a.../Story173.html

http://electronicintifada.net/cgi-bi...ew.cgi/10/3062

http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/20040529.htm

Heres one where the Pope tells them to reject terrorism...

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=177

A Christian canidate in the HAMAS. This is old news but its still an info.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ACC5E814-DB9A-4C8C-9C5C-D2F5795 720BA.htm


These are Christians who are fighting Israeli occupation. Just to show that its not Muslims vs Jews. Theres Jews including Rabbi are against Israeli gov't harsh policy on Palistinians.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by codycool

Your question is flawed. Give me a conflict that innocent civilians haven't been killed then I'll give you an answer. Children have been killed on both sides. Guess that means that this conflict shouldn't have even been started. Well talk to your palestinian believers of the peacefull allah, who decided to start this mess.

Ok Im not goin to argue about religion because you lack knowledge on Islam. Theres really no point into talkin to you then. You're very hard headed. Im against any war! I worry about everyone no matter what they believe in or what color they are..especially the children. IF you justify the killings of civilians including children...you shouldn't be considered human. Im sorry but you know you're views are a bit too extreme.

[codycool]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

Ok Im not goin to argue about religion because you lack knowledge on Islam. Theres really no point into talkin to you then. You're very hard headed. Im against any war! I worry about everyone no matter what they believe in or what color they are..especially the children. IF you justify the killings of civilians including children...you shouldn't be considered human. Im sorry but you know you're views are a bit too extreme.

LOL...bounce bounce...flip...flop...I didn't justify the killing of civilians. I don't like war either, however only the dead men of seen the end of it. I don't lack knowledge on the religion of Islam. It is not a peaceful religion. If the Quran doesn't teach you that then the acts of muslims all over the world will. I can let the news speak on my behalf. Just because I don't believe in your views doesn't mean i'm hard headed.

P.S. If a child is going to get in the way of my life, liberty and the persuit of happiness or any other free peaceful society. Then I'll be the first to pull the trigger. Now you don't need to put words into my mouth.

[Moppie]

Originally Posted by codycool

If what I'm saying is bigotry like you suggest, it seems this would be the perfect place to display it. Politics is bigotry my man.

There is no where in AF considered a good place to display, lest of all politics, which has nothing to with it.
Consider this a warning, failure to heed it will led to a ban.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by codycool

I don't lack knowledge on the religion of Islam.

Yes you do.

Originally Posted by codycool

It is not a peaceful religion.

Yes it is. If you base on ppl's action you are ignorant.

Originally Posted by codycool

I can let the news speak on my behalf. Just because I don't believe in your views doesn't mean i'm hard headed.

You're just a victim of the media. Im not tryin to make you believe in my views. You're the one goin sayin muslim this muslim that...haven't you seen the articles on the Christian Palistians? IF you think we're (im a muslim) not so peaceful...then why in the hell my buddies and I are tryin to promote peace at MSA?? Muslim Student Association. Have a heart man. PPL are dying left and right and you say you hate war? Then why do you support Israel's aggression? Do they have to attack the whole country for 2 soldiers?? I think thats a bit ridiculous. As a true muslim.. I will continue to pray for peace.

[Toksin]

Fuck, what a mess, and the fact that bigots and racists are involved just makes it even worse.


Oh, and the situation in the middle east is pretty bad as well.

[highteknology]

i'm not very well educated on either the Islamic religion or all the turmoil that Israel and Palestine have been involved in for the past years, but it seems to me, and please correct me if i'm wrong here , that Israel was just waiting for an excuse to go ahead and attack Palestine. It seems like it (Israel) used the capture of the three soldiers as a way to attack Palestine.