Safc Ii

[Wollf]

LOL you all are so funny i said my piece and i stand behind my word. Unlike the rest of you i dont need to lie. And i dont need to flame, this is a help board for people who want it. I offer help , take it or leave it. Dont like it dont reply.

PS: not a $30 dollor mod , 255 usually canadian , as i said. and when your running a 16-18 second run from 0-60 1.25 sec shave average is ok , not great.

[TEXSRT4]

a second in the 1/4 is ALWAYS great!!!!!! ALWAYS!!! and 1.25 secods 0-60 is a lot closer to 2 seconds in the 1/4. i find is VERY hard to believe, as a car builder and tuner, to pick up that speed with just a plug in module. so again i ask how did you verify.

my standalone engine management system didnt give me 1.25 seconds in the 1/4...how can it give a low compression, low powered, N/A car that in the 0-60. i call BS until someone provides a bit more proof than we counted. i need 1/4 mile times and/or dyno printouts.

i caution the original poster to be weary of anything that promises big power...unless it significantly changes the egine VE. the laws of physics come into play, and you CANNOT gain that much power without altering the specs inside the motor. its impossiable without altering compression ratio's, camshaft profiles, head design, motor displacement, etc

[paulstalonesi]

well i can see this is turning into a rather pointless argument, wollf i dont think you should post until u have some actually evidence, but i guess what im trying to ask here is should i bother buying the safc 2 if i dont have access to a dyno and will have to tune my self?

[HPNOTIQracing]

Originally Posted by paulstalonesi

well i can see this is turning into a rather pointless argument, wollf i dont think you should post until u have some actually evidence, but i guess what im trying to ask here is should i bother buying the safc 2 if i dont have access to a dyno and will have to tune my self?

ok what im saying about this is that everyone is asking wollf where his proof is because there has been so many people with complaints about jet. we are not just saying it to have a debate. time and time again people have been ripped of by jet. there is an article floating around one of these dodge forums about how jet is just sticking thier sticker on it and sending it back to you without doing anything. my opinion (from a long time first gen owner) dont go with any of these companies. go with something you can tune yourself so you know it acctully getting done.

second the safc is a great mod, dynoed or not. the more supporting mods the better gains you will see. you can tune these yourself and get reasonable gains, but it wont come near as much power as you can get out of it with a dyno or wide band. safc is the way to go unless you megasquiet, greddy emange, or some other standalone.

[FemaleRacer]

Originally Posted by paulstalonesi

well i can see this is turning into a rather pointless argument, wollf i dont think you should post until u have some actually evidence, but i guess what im trying to ask here is should i bother buying the safc 2 if i dont have access to a dyno and will have to tune my self?

Ok gentlemen,

I can add some personal experience here...I have a friend who used Jet with their car. And I drove it at the track MYSELF and noticed very little,if no difference. I don't know wether it's compatible with a Neon (I don't pretend to know it all). But keep in mind-if they were that great on a Neon or any other car we would all know about it. People wont spend thousands on turbos, nitrious, etc if they could do better for WAY less money. And IMO I'd rather have something that I can tweek myself to get it exactly the way I want it. But then again that's just my opinion. And if there is proof that it can save me that much time on the track i'd love to see it.

[das2123]

Originally Posted by TEXSRT4

a second in the 1/4 is ALWAYS great!!!!!! ALWAYS!!! and 1.25 secods 0-60 is a lot closer to 2 seconds in the 1/4. i find is VERY hard to believe, as a car builder and tuner, to pick up that speed with just a plug in module. so again i ask how did you verify.

Hey TEX, maybe the module along with the $50 electric supercharger on eBay, we could shave 3-4 seconds off our time. What do you think?

[HPNOTIQracing]

Originally Posted by das2123

Hey TEX, maybe the module along with the $50 electric supercharger on eBay, we could shave 3-4 seconds off our time. What do you think?

im in but you can always go to the junk yard and for about 30 bucks you can get a used one of a old body 300z......since its used you probly only get 1-2 seconds off

[TEXSRT4]

sounds good, especially after teh thousands i have invested into my own car. heck, just blew $2000 on my standalone, $1000 on my big turbo, $500 on my fuel system...when i could have gone cheap.

there is a reason to spend money. its done so that i can run 11's on street tires, get 30+miles per gallon, and not have to worry about blowing crap up