Who's ready for some controversy!?!?!

[AlbanyCartel]

Muscletang,

It instills doubt in your religion.
Its changes nothing about the teachings of Jesus, but it makes you question the religion spawned from Jesus.

It discredits aspects of Christianity.
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not Christian, Catholic, etc.) but isn't Mary Magdalen a whore? Shouldn't she be despised? Also, aren't priests forbidden to marry and have children?


It doesn't change your faith in Jesus, but it makes you question your religion,

and we all know where that leads.


Also, you should read it before seeing the movie.
People tend to judge succeeding productions based on the first thing they see. Meaning, most (including myself) judge everything but the original to suck.
And if you see the movie first, it will be like "your original", and then reading the book; might not hold up to your expectations (which would be based on the movie).

But then again, it might not.
It depends on how well Ron Howard stays true to the book. But in many cases, Hollywood tends to stray from books, games, and whatever else movies are based off of.

So, long story short: read the book first

[mellowboy]

I would think this would be wrong because someone with no knowledge on faith would probably be persuaded based on fiction and therefore you're faith wouldn't be vaild. I could be wrong though but it seems logical.

[turtlecrxsi]

Mary Magdelene was not necessarily "a whore", however, she has been made out to be that way over time. You have to remember this is 2000 years of history. What I've learned studying history in college is that (and historeographers will confirm this) the objectivity of history is skewed by the simple relaying of the story. Facts get jumbled and sometimes completely withdrawn. I need not mention that the Bible itself has been restructured numerous times in both text and translation.

[Muscletang]

Originally Posted by AlbanyCartel

It discredits aspects of Christianity.
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not Christian, Catholic, etc.) but isn't Mary Magdelin a whore? Shouldn't she be despised?

Don't quote me on this because I don't really know.

I believe she wasn't a whore while Jesus was alive. One theory I saw was after Christ was dead she had his child and became a whore to raise it. There are two different theories that spawn from this as well. One says she moved to France and became a whore. The other says she stayed in Isrial.

If anything else I don't think she started that life style until after Jesus and not while he was around.

Now this brings up points like "Jesus was involved with a whore!"

Was she a whore at the time is the question to ask. If she wasn't then you can also say "well if he was the son of God he would have known she would have become a whore!"

True, but did you also know that Jesus' great great grandmother (I forget how many generations) was a whore? Since that's true why couldn't another mother have been picked that didn't come from whore?

Why pick a mother who had a whore in her family line and also had King David? (If you don't know King David slept with another man's wife, got her pregnant, and then killed the husband.)

Questions, questions, questions.

Originally Posted by AlbanyCartel

Also, aren't priests forbidden to marry and have children?

I've seen several things on this. I thought that but I've seen recently that people are saying it was just uncommon for priests in that time to marry but not forbidden.

[turtlecrxsi]

Originally Posted by Muscletang

Don't quote me on this because I don't really know.

I believe she wasn't a whore while Jesus was alive. One theory I saw was after Christ was dead she had his child and became a whore to raise it. There are two different theories that spawn from this as well. One says she moved to France and became a whore. The other says she stayed in Isrial.

If anything else I don't think she started that life style until after Jesus and not while he was around.

Now this brings up points like "Jesus was involved with a whore!"

Was she a whore at the time is the question to ask. If she wasn't then you can also say "well if he was the son of God he would have known she would have become a whore!"

True, but did you also know that Jesus' great great grandmother (I forget how many generations) was a whore? Since that's true why couldn't another mother have been picked that didn't come from whore?

Why pick a mother who had a whore in her family line and also had King David? (If you don't know King David slept with another man's wife, got her pregnant, and then killed the husband.)

Questions, questions, questions.



I've seen several things on this. I thought that but I've seen recently that people are saying it was just uncommon for priests in that time to marry but not forbidden.

The theories you mentioned are in the book. She isn't portrayed as a whore in the explanation. Basically, Mary Magdalene fled the Holy Land to France in order to raise the child. Maybe, she started showing signs of pregnancy and if the so-called marriage between her and Jesus was a secret (or however Christianity has passed it along through history), then maybe people considered her a whore and she left ashamed. Anyway, the book states that she went to France to raise the child under the protection of the Priory of Sion (the secret organization that has kept the blood lineage of Christ aka the Holy Grail a secret throughout history) which is basically the underlying theme of Dan Brown's book.

[Muscletang]

Originally Posted by turtlecrxsi

The theories you mentioned are in the book. She isn't portrayed as a whore in the explanation. Basically, Mary Magdalene fled the Holy Land to France in order to raise the child. Maybe, she started showing signs of pregnancy and if the so-called marriage between her and Jesus was a secret (or however Christianity has passed it along through history), then maybe people considered her a whore and she left ashamed. Anyway, the book states that she went to France to raise the child under the protection of the Priory of Sion (the secret organization that has kept the blood lineage of Christ aka the Holy Grail a secret throughout history) which is basically the underlying theme of Dan Brown's book.

Yeah I was told that but I've read and apparently there are some people out there that believed she went to France. Maybe they believe it now after the book or maybe it was a theory before the book?

[drunken monkey]

there's also a whole load of stuff about the frenchman who originally started the bloodline in france story (that ended up being made into a documentary) admitting that as being a complete hoax.

[DGB454]

Actually the media is making more of the few Christians that are making a stink about this than Chriatians are making over it. Frankly....it's just a movie and a book. Not a very well written book at that.

Later

[Muscletang]

Originally Posted by DGB454

Actually the media is making more of the few Christians that are making a stink about this than Chriatians are making over it.

I don't know about that. I know a whole lot of people that are telling my parents and I "don't go see that movie it's EVIL!"

Originally Posted by DGB454

Frankly....it's just a movie and a book. Not a very well written book at that.

Later

I wouldn't say that now. If you have in print 60.5 million copies then you must have done something right. I could write a controversial book but if I know nothing about writing or creating a story it won't do well.

[jcsaleen]

Oh I'm sorry I thought carlos mencia was here...

[DGB454]

Originally Posted by Muscletang

I don't know about that. I know a whole lot of people that are telling my parents and I "don't go see that movie it's EVIL!".

Tell your parents to start hanging with a different group of people.

I wouldn't say that now. If you have in print 60.5 million copies then you must have done something right. I could write a controversial book but if I know nothing about writing or creating a story it won't do well.

That was my opinion. I read it and I didn't feel it was very well written. I have read much better from more talented writters. Maybe one of his other books are better but I most likely wont bother trying another. JMHO

[turtlecrxsi]

Originally Posted by DGB454

That was my opinion. I read it and I didn't feel it was very well written. I have read much better from more talented writters. Maybe one of his other books are better but I most likely wont bother trying another. JMHO

I agree that it isn't exactly a great piece of literature. It was written so that it could sell so many copies. In other words, it was written in such basic easy to understand language so that everybody with a 4th grade education could read it...

[Muscletang]

Well I just saw this on Yahoo movies. Apparently in the movie they took it down a little. Some things that really pissed off some people were taken out.

I'll post the article when I find it.

[driftinggrifter2]

^ Just like in India it is being postponed until the catholics there get a private screening of it first.

[AlbanyCartel]

I have a question;

If this was all true; that Christ did have a child, why would the organization holding the secret still keep it a secret?

Without referencing "The Da Vinci Code", why wouldn't they just reveal the truth instead of keeping it a secret?