is this possible?? (even worth it)

[neatofrito1618]

Originally Posted by giddyup50

WOW!! That's impressive. Especially for a V6. Can he drive it a long distance on the highway though? If not, still impressive!!

No there both track cars only.

[giddyup50]

Originally Posted by neatofrito1618

I have bolt on's, 4,10's, and nitrous(my exact mods are in my sig), i havent gone to the track yet since im have a problem with my 4.10's and i have to replace them. But once there replaced/broken in im gonna go to the track and im planning to run around 13.6 with nitrous and 14.7 N/A with bolt on's and 4.10's. Right now im savin up for my H/C/I swap, 4.3 forged stroker(im gonna up the nitrous to 125 once i get forged internals), and a few other things. Im hoping to hit 11's when its all done.

Sounds good!! Hope it holds up. Is the gas mileage still better than a V8? Or about the same?

[neatofrito1618]

Originally Posted by giddyup50

Sounds good!! Hope it holds up. Is the gas mileage still better than a V8? Or about the same?

Thanks, iv never driven a GT but id image its about the same. Its a lot better then my dads 318 though.

[giddyup50]

With my 92 5.0 5spd. I could go about 230-250 miles IN TOWN on a full tank. I can't remember how far with highway miles mixed in there. Oh, and 250 miles in town was babying it, which I rarely did.

So going by what you have done, I'm guessing you're pushing around 270-280hp WITH NITROUS at the crank?

[neatofrito1618]

Originally Posted by giddyup50

With my 92 5.0 5spd. I could go about 230-250 miles IN TOWN on a full tank. I can't remember how far with highway miles mixed in there. Oh, and 250 miles in town was babying it, which I rarely did.

So going by what you have done, I'm guessing you're pushing around 270-280hp WITH NITROUS at the crank?

Probaly a little over 300.

[giddyup50]

Since I've been out of looking for performance parts for about 6 years, exuse my ignorance but, what is an ASP UDP's and xcal2? Ignition? Computer/chip?

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by giddyup50

But then you say "all you need to do to a 99-04 Mustang 3.8 to make it hold insane boost levels LIKE THE GN is new rods and pistons". Hmmm.....OK....sounds like the GM 3.8 can already handle "insane boost" stock. I'm sure you know that installing new rods and pistons is not a small job. You're rebuilding the whole engine. I know you know this last statement of mine, I'm just using it to prove my point. Not trying to be a smartass to you.

'tis true, but the mustang 3.8 is pretty inexpensive, you could buy a stripped v6 manual in 99-04 for little more than $15k.

also you are correct, the head gasket issue was fixed in 99

[neatofrito1618]

Originally Posted by giddyup50

Since I've been out of looking for performance parts for about 6 years, exuse my ignorance but, what is an ASP UDP's and xcal2? Ignition? Computer/chip?

UDP's are underdrive pullies, and a xcal2 is a flasher(kind of like a computer chip).

[giddyup50]

I understand that I'm comparing apples/oranges because of the age difference of the cars but for $15,000 I would rather buy a 87-93 5.0 or a 94-95 5.0 and upgrade one of those and still more than likely be under $15,000. I know, I know, I sound like a stubborn old man but, that's just what I would do before hopping up a V6. Although, with a 99-04 you'd have a warranty, newer technology, less wear/tear. But, I'd still go with the older 5.0 car. In MOST CASES you'd have more power, easier to find aftermarket/performance parts, and it's easier to get more power from the 5.0 or even 4.6 than it is the V6. I know, doing up a V6 is different and more of a challenge, and I respect you guys for that however, I just believe the saying, no replacement for displacement. Not to mention the V8 has more torque and it's harder to build torque from the 6 than the 8. Gotta have torque.

[giddyup50]

Originally Posted by neatofrito1618

UDP's are underdrive pullies, and a xcal2 is a flasher(kind of like a computer chip).

Ah...gotcha, UDP, computer talk. The flasher, is that like a hand held programer? Plugs in under the dash?

On my 92 I had offroad H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters, race pulleys (smaller crank than the street set 15hp instead of 10hp), 14* timing, and 12" K&N cone filter. It was about 270hp. I never had it on a dyno. Just guessing with what each upgrade was "supposed" to be worth. In the 1/4 I ran 13.7, that was with McCreary dirt track tires on the back (launch at 4,500 was awesome on those things).

OK....I'M HAVING FLASHBACKS.....SCREW WAITING TO SELL OUR HOUSE BEFORE I GET ANOTHER TOY. I'M LOOKING TOMMOROW!!

[neatofrito1618]

Originally Posted by giddyup50

Ah...gotcha, UDP, computer talk. The flasher, is that like a hand held programer? Plugs in under the dash?

On my 92 I had offroad H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters, race pulleys (smaller crank than the street set 15hp instead of 10hp), 14* timing, and 12" K&N cone filter. It was about 270hp. I never had it on a dyno. Just guessing with what each upgrade was "supposed" to be worth. In the 1/4 I ran 13.7, that was with McCreary dirt track tires on the back (launch at 4,500 was awesome on those things).

OK....I'M HAVING FLASHBACKS.....SCREW WAITING TO SELL OUR HOUSE BEFORE I GET ANOTHER TOY. I'M LOOKING TOMMOROW!!

Yeah its a hand help programmer. 14* is a lot, the engine didnt ping or anything?

[giddyup50]

Originally Posted by neatofrito1618

Yeah its a hand help programmer. 14* is a lot, the engine didnt ping or anything?

No. Most guys with a 5.0 would go 15 or even 16. But I wanted to play it safe and go 14. You do have to use 93 octane, but it's well worth it. Unless it's your daily driver, then I'd probably back it down to maybe 12. Factory setting was at 10.

[giddyup50]

Oh yeah, I also had stock 2.73 gears.

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by giddyup50

I understand that I'm comparing apples/oranges because of the age difference of the cars but for $15,000 I would rather buy a 87-93 5.0 or a 94-95 5.0 and upgrade one of those and still more than likely be under $15,000. I know, I know, I sound like a stubborn old man but, that's just what I would do before hopping up a V6. Although, with a 99-04 you'd have a warranty, newer technology, less wear/tear. But, I'd still go with the older 5.0 car. In MOST CASES you'd have more power, easier to find aftermarket/performance parts, and it's easier to get more power from the 5.0 or even 4.6 than it is the V6. I know, doing up a V6 is different and more of a challenge, and I respect you guys for that however, I just believe the saying, no replacement for displacement. Not to mention the V8 has more torque and it's harder to build torque from the 6 than the 8. Gotta have torque.

no actually you dont sound like a subborn old man, the 5.0 is a great engine. we were compairing the ford and gm 3.8l engine though, not saying one is better than a 302. trust me, id love to have say a 93 5.0... great car, and i think they can look mean as hell.

[AltecZX2]

a grand national motor in a fox body has been done..I'll google it and see i fi can gind the pics again.