EVO IX RS vs. Camaro SS

[TerminalVelocity]

Good loss!?!?!

They are hardcore on the freeway, defentally good to even keep up! Fun to run with in any case!

[Vortec-Rx7]

Originally Posted by stwatson

To be honest im kinda surprised that the SS won...Ive seen vids of the Evo IX takin out ferrari's from a dig. Now this is completely different on the highway because the all wheel drive actually hurts the performance of the Evo because its splitting up all the power. I have a Lincoln Mark VIII and Ive been able to beat modded WRX Sti's on the highway but from a dig....i get my ass handed to me. The RWD V8's are more powerful on the highway and can pull a lot harder than the AWD forced induction 4 cylinders. Either way both are sweet cars and I would love to have one....

no thats not it at all. The SS has more rwhp, so it takes over on the highway, because in the end it is faster. The AWD seems like it hampers it on the top end, but all it does is help its low end.

[CassiesMan]

AWD doesn't kill people on the high end as much as everyone says. WHP is WHP, regardless of what wheels they are going to.

[lickem]

Originally Posted by BullDog71ss

Still, lickin' is a strange word usage.

you got a problem with lickin?

[BullDog71ss]

Originally Posted by lickem

you got a problem with lickin?

Who licks a Corvette though? I thought people just did that to VW's....

[BullDog71ss]

Originally Posted by CassiesMan

AWD doesn't kill people on the high end as much as everyone says. WHP is WHP, regardless of what wheels they are going to.

The only problem with awd cars is that they need more bhp than a fwd or rwd car to make a certain amount of whp. Other than that you're right, whp is whp.

Although gearing and other things come into play as well to hinder them on the highway. STi's and Evo's arent ment for the highway. They are rally cars ment for bottom and midrange quickness.

[3000ways]

Well before I had the wonderful fortune of owning this beautiful IX RS, I was a long time EVO fan, been a very active member of evolutionm.net for over two years before I even owned an EVO, so I often wondered what was the biggest hinderous to an EVO during a high speed roll.

Well the LS1 Camaro SS is a very powerful car, but oddly enough it's power to weight is not much greater if it's at all than my EVO. Camaro SS have always been underrated and have been making anywhere from 280RWHP to 300RWHP stock, some have made even more. The EVO IXs have been making anywhere from 260AWHP to 280AWHP stock, and some have made more. The LS1 Camaro SS weighs in approx. 3400Lbs compared to my EVO IX RS that weighs in just under 3200Lbs. So as you can see the power to weight isn't as far off as some may think.

The biggest hinderous I have found for a stock 5-Speed Manual EVO, now being a new EVO owner is the gearing. 3rd gear and 4th gear are just too damn short. That is why the best modification any EVO owner can do fo his or her EVO is get a Flash or any kind of ECU tuning. Not only does it add a substantial power increase of 25-45WHP depending on the tuner and level of modifications, but it also has the capacity to up the rev limiter from 7100-7200RPM, to 7600-7800RPM. This means I am longer on the gas between shifts.

In the next couple of months I plan to add a Works Drop In Air Filter, RNR Turbo Back Exhaust w/ Test Pipe, Forge UNOS Manual Boost Controller, and EcuTek Flash and Tune. If my numbers are similiar to all the other IXs that have similiar mods and tune, I should be making close to 340AWHP on pump gas. My EVO should turn into a completely new beast, with the added power and increase in the rev limiter. Another EVO with similiar modifications just recently ran a 11.9@116MPH, but he made 355-360AWHP on 93 octane pump gas (I only have the option of 91 octane pump gas)

[Igovert500]

Originally Posted by BullDog71ss

Who licks a Corvette though? I thought people just did that to VW's....

Not only VWs...

[Morphius289]

^LOL Family Guy is the best show in the world, hands down.

[wethepplebmxer]

yea camaros have been underrated for as long as i can remember. Most people think of a camaro and think of the mid 14 second LT1 cars of the mid 90's, the 99-02 z28 and SS were totally reborn beasts. I don't car what ur driving, if you see one of these cars, get ready for a fight.

[KevinE326]

Originally Posted by wethepplebmxer

yea camaros have been underrated for as long as i can remember. Most people think of a camaro and think of the mid 14 second LT1 cars of the mid 90's, the 99-02 z28 and SS were totally reborn beasts. I don't car what ur driving, if you see one of these cars, get ready for a fight.

Im not to concerned, fasted stock camero was 13.6. 3rd gear is where my evo hurts. If we go from a dig or a slower roll it really wont be a prob unless I dont know how to drive. Gm needs to make another mainstreet street car soon (saw their releasing the camaro again? 07?) to give the awd class some real competition thats sub $45k.

1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Conv. 6.2 14.5
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1995 Chevrolet Camaro 3800 7.4 15.7
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.1
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.3 13.8
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.2 13.7
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.2 13.6

[BullDog71ss]

Originally Posted by KevinE326

Im not to concerned, fasted stock camero was 13.6. 3rd gear is where my evo hurts. If we go from a dig or a slower roll it really wont be a prob unless I dont know how to drive. Gm needs to make another mainstreet street car soon (saw their releasing the camaro again? 07?) to give the awd class some real competition thats sub $45k.

1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Conv. 6.2 14.5
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1995 Chevrolet Camaro 3800 7.4 15.7
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.1
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.3 13.8
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.2 13.7
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.2 13.6

Haha...those times are a joke. If your Evo VIII is stock don't bother trying to race an LS1 on the highway, you'll stand much more of a chance from a dig and even then you could be beat.

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by TatII

yaeh the RS is a very basic lightweight EVO, its the second fastest EVO you can get. only the MR is faster...

What is your definition of faster? If it's top speed then you're wrong. Both the GSR, MR and RS hit about 160mph. If it's 1/4 mile times then you're wrong again. The RS is the quickest off the showroom floor because it's the lightest. If you're talking about 0-60mph then you're wrong again. The '05 Evo VIII RS pulled off a 4.3 in one magazine last year. I can't imagine that the more powerfull '06 IX RS could be any slower. Where is the MR faster?

[KevinE326]

Originally Posted by BullDog71ss

Haha...those times are a joke. If your Evo VIII is stock don't bother trying to race an LS1 on the highway, you'll stand much more of a chance from a dig and even then you could be beat.

true times. and I have raced a newer camaro on the highway and won.

[TatII]

Originally Posted by Steiner

What is your definition of faster? If it's top speed then you're wrong. Both the GSR, MR and RS hit about 160mph. If it's 1/4 mile times then you're wrong again. The RS is the quickest off the showroom floor because it's the lightest. If you're talking about 0-60mph then you're wrong again. The '05 Evo VIII RS pulled off a 4.3 in one magazine last year. I can't imagine that the more powerfull '06 IX RS could be any slower. Where is the MR faster?

talkin about road racing. the standard EVO is too heavy, the RS is lighter, and has a helical limited slip up front. the MR has a 6 speed and bilstien shocks. however i could be wrong, do all evo's from 05 up have bilstiens? and what else did the MR come with other then the 6 speed?