ethonol 85?

[G-man422]

^ no, the higher the octane level, the easier it is for the engine to combust it, resulting in a smoother, more efficient engine.

[zx2guy]

Originally Posted by G-man422

I think its a good idea. i also think that it will eventually be used in every car.

will all motors be able to handle the change though. i have a feeling this will be like leaded to unleaded. we will start to have problems and will have to modify to adjust to the different fuel. ( ild also like to see how the rotery engines are taking it, im sure that those motors might prop up different quirks compared to our standard motor)

[G-man422]

yeah, the rotary engines. I wonder about that myself.

[ec437]

Originally Posted by BP2K2Max

^it's not cheap enough yet. it currently costs as much as gasoline and you have to refill more often cuz it burns faster. however you do get more power from it since it's a higher octane. as there becomes more of a market for for e85 the price will come down.

check out either www.livegreengoyellow.com or www.e85fuel.com

This being an automotive forum, it is naturally assumed that all members understand the concept of octane ratings.


higher octane does not equal more power.

[abaird]

Originally Posted by ec437

This being an automotive forum, it is naturally assumed that all members understand the concept of octane ratings.


higher octane does not equal more power.

I think we have established that.

Also, how many rotary engines are still in production? I know Mazda still uses one, but who else?

[2strokebloke]

Why wouldn't it work in a rotary engine? What are you all on crack or something? You change the air to fuel ratio so it burns like it's supposed to, increase compression and advance timing. It's not impossible for engineers to do that for a rotary.

[Muscletang]

From what I've heard the rotary is probably the easiest engine to run on ethonal or even hydrogen. I think because the design is much simpler over a normal engine is why but don't quote me on that.

[G-man422]

I would love to see more rotary engines make it into other cars.

[BlueFusion6851]

Originally Posted by Steel

i think stoich for alcohol is 6:1

Don't say the 'S' word! I'm having Chemistry flashbacks!
But to answer your question, the only problem is the lack of compatible cars on the market. I want my car to run on E-85 like crazy.

[Igovert500]

Originally Posted by G-man422

^ no, the higher the octane level, the easier it is for the engine to combust it, resulting in a smoother, more efficient engine.

NO

Originally Posted by ec437

This being an automotive forum, it is naturally assumed that all members understand the concept of octane ratings.


higher octane does not equal more power.

[zx2guy]

i not saying it wouldnt work in rotory motors, but with the differences in design would it have a different quirk then traditional ICE's (internal combu...you get the picture.)

i wish i knew more about rotory motors though, i think they have potential but, i mean we are still in the process of maximizing our ICE i mean from head design to porting to cams, whole nine yards there are different things that we are coming out with. i want to learn more about the rotory, anyone know a good place to look?

but back on topic.... because E-85 has the well, the 85 marker, does that mean that it's like the difference between 87 and (whats the next one?) 89.< in its ability to combust that is. or its stability.

[TerminalVelocity]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

What are you all on crack or something?

yes...yes we are

I have never seen anywhere that sells this fuel....anyone know of anywhere in CA?

[abaird]

Originally Posted by zx2guy

but back on topic.... because E-85 has the well, the 85 marker, does that mean that it's like the difference between 87 and (whats the next one?) 89.< in its ability to combust that is. or its stability.

The 85 means that it is 85% ethanol. Like super unleaded is E10=10% ethanol.

On the subject of rotary engines, I think they would be great in motorcycles because of the light weight and the ability to push some very high rpms because of very little rotating inertia and their small size. And there is no pumping loss since there is a power stroke three times in one revolution of the rotor. There downfall is longevity. We expect todays vehicles to reach 200,000 miles before rebuilds. I have heard rotary engines only last around 80,000 and they really can't be rebuilt, just replaced.
www.howstuffworks.com

[BP2K2Max]

Originally Posted by abaird

The 85 means that it is 85% ethanol. Like super unleaded is E10=10% ethanol.

On the subject of rotary engines, I think they would be great in motorcycles because of the light weight and the ability to push some very high rpms because of very little rotating inertia and their small size...

suzuki made a rotary motorcycle for a few years.
http://www.rotaryrecycle.net/re5originalrelease.asp

[zx2guy]

ok today is the 26th of feb i checked out gas as i was going by walmart:

2.27(9) 87 unleaded
2.14(9) e 85

if gas prices sink any, e 85 is goin below 2.00

and not to be the bearer of bad news but does anyone remember that less then a decade ago we were paying less then a dollar for gas? not to mention if you have seen con air and you see the gas prices(in the show)... you will break into tears.