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I am not in any way tring to be an ass but I would like to correct your for you own knowledge BHP is Baud Horse Power. Where are you people coming up with the Evo running over $40k?
" In Japan, these extreme cars start near $23,000. Mitsubishi has a couple details to address before import into the United States is ensured, namely intercooler/bumper packaging and California emissions. We're told that the target price would be well under $30,000." -Motor Trend, November 2001 " The American market can expect the rally-bred sedan to make the trip almost entirely intact, with the exception of the 276-horsepower output: while that figure was originally thought to be reduced to 250 due to emissions and intercooler packaging issues, sources now say it will have at least 260 horses. Price is promised to be under $30, which puts this ultra-sports sedan in elite performance company. Expect Subaru is to counter with its potent WRX STi." Motor Trend, infomation from the 2001 Detroit Auto Show I am not here to say that I know everything or that I am always right, but merely here to present the facts.
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this is the definition i have:
Brake Horsepower (BHP) The actual horsepower delivered at the crankshaft of an engine. maybe "Baud" means "Brake" in another language or something? and i think theyre getting their $40,000 estimates based on an article i saw in some magazine that compared the euro-spec evo 7 and the euro spec STi. it had the base price for the STi at $30,000 USD and the base price for the evo at $37,000 USD in that article but mitsu is cutting out a lot of stuff for the US evo, such as the active differentials, so maybe they can knock the price down to $30,000? |
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just got back from the mitsu dealr he said the car should be around 30k and dosent think we are gonna get the yaw control or the good diff. but should be the evo8 with the good brakes/seats 280hp motor and a 6 speed from what he told me
no yaw wtf!
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wat is yaw? is it the acd or ayc?
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I would trust NOTHING that Motortrend says. I have seen them make so many assumptions over the years that it's down right ridiculous to think they would know ANYTHING more about the evo than most others do. And to assume they knew this much two years before the expected release of the car, is even more silly.
The evo is to compete with the STI, when these two cars come to the states it will be a fight for your money in this market. The only thing that really really ensures the EVO's success over the subaru (IMO) is the ACD and AYC. Evoloutions have suffered from crankwalk before just like alot of the AWD eclipses have, and the risk of that type of problem and still not recieving the superior awd system of the evo might be enough to turn me away. As of now, in my personal opinion, I expect the evo 8, brembos, around 260 hp, SMIC, possibly the recaros, but thats about all that can be said. AYC ACD is a toss up, but in my opinion it would be really really stupid not to include them. But car companys have proven not to be genius before. I'm expecting to pay no more than 33k for this package and when compared to the Jspec EVO's price, then adding for the act of getting them over here. I think that's a fair price.
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the real knowledge
The Lancer Evolution is coming to the US to let you all know. Right now, the engine is 276 bhp and the Impreza WRX STi is at 265 bhp. Both cars are coming to the US either as late 2003 or not until next fall as 2004 models. The Evo will not come here to compete with the WRX, it will completely kill it. Anyway the STi is rated better than the Evo VII is both handling and performance. Now when they come here, they are not going to be totally expensive. The Evo is gonna run between 30,000 and 35,000. The STi is going to be between 33,000 to 38,000. To let you know, Mototrend is wrong. Both cars compete with each other and the WRX does not even fool with them. The WRX could compete if it had a 300 hp turbo in it from COBB Tuning. And the horsepower is from the engine, not from the wheels. Also, bhp does not matter if it is larger or smaller, it all depends on the compresiion ratio. The better the car is tuned, the better it can perform. That is why the STi, which has lower bhp than the Evo beat it. And last to let you know, the Active Yaw Control traction enhancement system uses a computer to optimally regulate torque transfer in the rear differential on 4WD models and thereby tailor rear wheel differentials to match driver operation and vehicle operating status. In this way, MMC's proprietary system both equalizes the load on the four tires by adaptively regulating the yaw moment that acts on the body and improves cornering performance without inducing any sense of deceleration. When accelerating through a corner, AYC reduces understeer by transferring torque to the outer wheel; when decelerating in a corner, AYC enhances stability by transferring torque to the inner wheel. AYC also improves traction on surfaces with low or split friction coefficients. And you can import the Evo VII into the US from www.evolutionimports.com and it passes US emissions. The Evo will have the Yaw on it and Center Differential on it.
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thats right man they are bringing the lancer evo 8 to america in december and they will be around 35k with around 280 torque and horse power. and that is the truth i talked with the dealer today. spread the word. and reply to me if you have more info
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Yeah! A lot of people can't wait to see the Lancer EVO in US! There are also discussions going on in http://LancerEvolutions.com
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RE
WRX VS.LANCER EVO.
Where do you get off saying that a LANCER EVO wil "KILL" a WRX STI. I was in japan with a friend 2 years ago teaching english (2years), and seen all kinds of lancers and wrx's...and let me tell you none kill eachj other some are faster than others, but thaty depends on what kind of mods it has. There was a guy who had a really fast lancer with almost everymod you can think of on it.......and he got SHALACKED HARDCORE by a fully done STI version 6...they began the race off by running the 1/4 mile (lancer lost by 2 1/2 cars...then into the first street corner where the WRX agian beat the lancer.....then i couldnt see any more of the race....they only place where the lancer would keep up was on straights...other than that IT'S JUST A SCOOBY SNACK. Although i must admit that some lancers are very fast, but they weigh alot....Thats why they need more power. PEACE
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You didn't understand what I said. An Evolution VII would kill a US version Impreza WRX. Not the WRX STi that is in Japan, Europe, and Australia. I already stated that the WRX STi beats the Evo VII in handling and performance, did you not see that. Read carefully, the EVO would be a US WRX. Peace out.
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