Supercharger

[P10DET]

Originally posted by Brian P
i think the rule of thumb for S/C T/C is that engines with less than ~300hp are better off with a turbo, and anything with more than ~300hp is better off with a super.

Whoever told you this hooey needs to get a new thumb.

I highly suggest reading Mike Kojima's Turbo Manifesto in the Suck, Squish, Bang, Blow series in Sport Compact Car.

A turbocharger is much better than a supercharger in almost every application if the turbo is sized correctly. The problem in the performance aftermarket is the monkeys selling turbos don't know very much about sizing them. If you're willing to do some math, Mike gives all the formulas to figuring out how to size a turbo properly.

One last thing for anyone wanting to put together their own turbo set-up for their SR20.....

Rob Cadle (President of SERCA) is an engineer for Garrett and has put together a great combination that is so good it appears Garrett is going to add it to their offerings. It's a mid hp range turbo for us (300 or so hp). Of course, for really big numbers, the GT3037 is supposed to ROCK.

[G-Forces]

Originally posted by P10DET
Whoever told you this hooey needs to get a new thumb.

Heh, 'hooey' is a bad Russian word for penis!

I highly suggest reading Mike Kojima's Turbo Manifesto in the Suck, Squish, Bang, Blow series in Sport Compact Car.

YES! Not to mention the whole series rocks. Too bad I packed mine away for moving (BTW I got approved for a new appt), I want to re-read the cam installment.

Rob Cadle (President of SERCA) is an engineer for Garrett and has put together a great combination that is so good it appears Garrett is going to add it to their offerings. It's a mid hp range turbo for us (300 or so hp).

That's the badboy, w/bb center, I'm going to put in! Supposedly it fits a stock GTi-R maifold. Ohh I can't wait!

[kostik76]

Originally posted by G-Forces

Heh, 'hooey' is a bad Russian word for penis!


YES! Not to mention the whole series rocks. Too bad I packed mine away for moving (BTW I got approved for a new appt), I want to re-read the cam installment.



That's the badboy, w/bb center, I'm going to put in! Supposedly it fits a stock GTi-R maifold. Ohh I can't wait!

:-) LOL (-:
That is true, you insulted a man without even knowing it... Comming back to the topic, how much would it cost in general to add turbos to g20 p10 (the one with 140 hp 2.0 eng.) and what else would i have to modify in the car so that I do not kill it?
Thanks.:smoka:

[G-Forces]

Originally posted by kostik76
Comming back to the topic, how much would it cost in general to add turbos to g20 p10 (the one with 140 hp 2.0 eng.)

How fast do you want to go? How much do you want to spend. You can probably get a cheap setup for under $2500 properly done. Small front mount intercooler, JWT ECU, JDM DET manifold, cheap T25/28, piping. That should net you an nice quick around 190-220hp at the wheels. Anymore than that and you'll have to start upgrading MAF's, injectors, fuel rail, fuel pump, ignition, etc depending on how much power you want/need.

[kostik76]

Thanks. Does anyone know a good place in Brooklyn where I could go to for such mod. ?

[FlossinPrimera]

I have a friend with a Supercharged Integra Type-R turning 404hp at the crank. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

[stoneage_tech]

jackson raceing supercharger right? that guy makes them for b16&18 honduh and the mazda miata . too bad he wont look at us sr20de folks he could tap a big market with one of his kits ...

[Koojo]

Originally posted by G-Forces

Heh, 'hooey' is a bad Russian word for penis!

Hey g-forces do you know russian???? i lived there for 5 years and know it very well.

[Koojo]

If anyone is looking for step by step instructions and explanations on how to install a turbo charger into an automatic g20...see this website The Quest for a Turbo Charged Infiniti G20 Automatic

It might help out the people that own a manual too, those who dont know what a turbocharger is..

[G-Forces]

Originally posted by Koojo
Hey g-forces do you know russian???? i lived there for 5 years and know it very well.

ochen nyemnoga! A couple of my friends are Russian...I know most of the naughty words like hooey and peezda!

[G22DET]

even if Jackson Racing is gonna make a supercharger kit for the SR...why get it? it's inefficient, pricey and it's not really that fast (at least on the track) if you all remember the civic Si challenge that SCC, Car and Driver and Stupid Street had, both the Si from SCC and C/D had superchargers, however, was beat pretty badly by the Stupid Street's NA Civic!!!!
the supercharger might feel pretty fast cuz of the humongo torque increase but most SC's runs outta breath around 6k rpm. and since it's belt driven (meaning it takes horsepower to generate horsepwoer as oppose to turbo which takes wasted exahust gas into power=efficiency) it's gonna be a very big liablity on your engine.
why do i know this? cuz i had a 93 civic coupe before my P11 with B16 and Jackson's SC and it was not up to par on the tracks...and also cuz my stupid timing belt broke...my engine went up in smokes... 110miles away from home...in the dessert...please DONT ask me how much it was to tow the car home....

[slickkedar]

..humh.....sounds like your car broke down in my area.....

[G22DET]

further..in Buttonwillow actually...about 60miles further than palm springs i think...it totally sucked!

[kostik76]

Ya govoru po russki bez problem. That was for these who understand. I AM RUSSIAN :-) :smoker: :-( Just went upstate on my g20t '95 (i think you call it p10). Put about 1/5 K miles in mountains, went through 1.2 tanks of gas and 48h of fun. This was the first time I took this car on the trip. It is all stock, except for insignificant extras that do not do hooey. I noticed that going up the hill I have to really downshift to get moving, for example if I am going about 40 I would have to put it into second with full throttle and then keep shifting about 5k rpm, i would not even go into 5th gear. Never the less I never had a problem. What would you recommend me to change/add in my car to be able to drive on mountain roads without revving my engine so much? Also can anyone recommend which wind deflectors I should get?

[T4 Primera]

stoneagetech,

yes there was a awd primera but it i belive could only be had with a automatic tranny....

I have a '91 T4 primera and its a "5 speed manual". Model number on the build plate is HNP10 where the "N" represents AWD. Transaxle number on the build plate says RS5F32A FM43.

These cars are basically a 4WD version of the TE Primera so come with Recaro interior, sport suspension, 105 to 110kW (140 to 147HP), full factory spoiler kit and all the usual extras except keyless entry. Picked it up 2 years ago for NZ$9.5k (just under US$4k) with 68000km (42000 miles) on it. I can confirm no torque steer that I'd notice but then again not really making as much power as a turbo/supercharged version. Car handles neutral with NO bodyroll and ride is firm but not harsh. I tested it on Pukekohe Raceway earlier this year (fastest circuit in the southern hemispere I'm told) and it rocks.:ylsuper Only downside - spec turning circle is 33 feet!. (My FWD turbo mitsi' is bigger and and turns around in 17 feet.)

I'd recommend taking one of these for a spin if you ever get the chance. I wouldn't change anything about it except maybe more power......arrhh arrhh