New GTP. DIES OUT????

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by mrazekt2002

Where can i get that cleaner at?

I got my cleaner at Radio Shack. It's safer than automotive type contact cleaners. Around $9.00 per can but lasts a long time. Good luck!


Only clean the bottom part the pen points to which are the hot wire elements.








Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials
1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

[mrazekt2002]

thank you

[richtazz]

Nice pic BOb, did you not have enough coffee that morning? Just kidding, I've seen that pic from and earlier post and know you took it with your camera phone.

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by richtazz

Nice pic BOb, did you not have enough coffee that morning? Just kidding, I've seen that pic from and earlier post and know you took it with your camera phone.

lol. Yeah Wylie got me on the blurry aspects last time. It's the spare one from my GTP. But now I don't have to worry about about the stock MAF sensor. I have a Granatelli cold air tuneable MAF mounted off the throttle body midstream between the CAI and TB intake. Similar to the way a MAF mounts in a LS1 and the '04 and up Grand Prixs.

BTW - Just another hot rodder trick to keep ahead of the competition.







Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials
1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

[jimmyv-21]

got my cleaner at autozone.

37000 miles...not even broke in yet...must be nice.

still young enough for a few mods hehehe...

[mrazekt2002]

I didn't have the right torx driver to take the sensor out, but i cleaned what i could see until i can get one. It didin't die as much today. hopefully it will work. $11.00 much better then $130.00.

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by mrazekt2002

I didn't have the right torx driver to take the sensor out, but i cleaned what i could see until i can get one. It didin't die as much today. hopefully it will work. $11.00 much better then $130.00.

Sounds good. Just a suggestion but check to make sure the throttle body screen is installed and clean too. Some previous owners remove them for whatever reason but I recommend keeping it installed.

Also, if the MAF sensor cleaning doesn't work and you get big time driveability problems you can run with the MAF sensor disconnected for a short period of time. Comes in handy and could prevent a towing bill. All the PCM will do is detect the MAF signal missing and switch over to internal pre-programmed parameters based on TPS position, rpms and MAP pressure. The only side effect is the idle will be a little erratic until the engine warms up and the PCM switches over to closed loop mode. Good luck!








Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials
1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

[mrazekt2002]

I cant see a screen isn't is supposed to on the end of the throttle body?

Thnaks for the tip about removing the connector.

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by mrazekt2002

I cant see a screen isn't is supposed to on the end of the throttle body?

Thnaks for the tip about removing the connector.

Sounds like it's been removed. It helps diffuse and smooth out the air flow coming in to the MAF sensor, etc. Normally it's installed at the opening of the throttle body by a big c-clip.









Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials
1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

[mrazekt2002]

where can you get a screen and is it hard o install?

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by mrazekt2002

where can you get a screen and is it hard o install?

Probably at a GM dealer or a salvage yard. You'll need the screen and the big c-clip. The screen will just slip in at the throttle body opening, then you install the c-clip to hold it in. You'll see a groove where the c-clip fits in.

BTW - The screen will also help catch any excess oil from the K&N style air filter installed on most CAIs.









Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials
1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

[mrazekt2002]

Now i and really lost and REALLY pissed.

I Cleaned the contacts inside the MAF, but shortly after that the same problems continued. Earlier i had unhooked the MAF and drove for a half hour with no problem. The idle was around 900-1000 (700-800 before), the engine never stalled out, and the accelleration seemed to be a little better.
After I cleaned the MAF I took out the car and less than fiveminutes later the same problems started back up. Even after I unhooked the MAF agin it didn't run "normal" again, it actually wouldn't idle at all and occationally a t cruising speed it would loose power for a second.

List of Problems:
1. Random dying while deaccelerating
2. Random dying while idling, it would idle fine sometimes, but then die or idle rough.
3. While "the problem" was occuring acceleration suffered also.
4. Occational loss of power while cruising under 73 MPH (didn't loose power while cruising at 73 MPH for several hours.)


These are all the problems that I have encoutered so far, PLEASE HELP.

[BNaylor]

Certain 2001 - 2002 Grand Prixs and other GM "W" bodies are known to have defective CAT convertors. The CAT convertor emissions warranty was extended out to 10 years/120K miles, whichever comes first.

You might consider taking it to a dealer and have them check out the CAT convertor. If found bad they will replace it for free.

You should call Pontiac customer service, give them your VIN and see if your car qualifies. See copy of letter below:

**************************************************

This is a special policy that raises warranty coverages on the converter in case you experience a failure.

Dear General Motors Customer:

As the owner of a 2001-02 Chevrolet Impala, Monte Carlo; Pontiac Grand Prix; or Buick Regal model vehicle, equipped with a 3.4L or 3.8L V6 engine, your satisfaction with our product is very important to us.

This letter is intended to make you aware that some 2001-02 Chevrolet Impala, Monte Carlo; Pontiac Grand Prix; and Buick Regal model vehicles, equipped with a 3.4L or 3.8L V6 engine, may have a condition where the catalytic converter is replaced due to complaints of lack of power or illumination of the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL). This may be due to the front endcone insulation from the catalytic converter breaking away and blocking the front of the first catalyst brick and preventing the free flow of exhaust gas through the converter.

This is not a recall. Do not take your vehicle to your GM dealer as a result of this letter unless you believe that your vehicle has the condition as described above.

What We Have Done
General Motors is providing owners with additional protection for the Catalytic Converter. If this condition occurs on your 2001-02 Chevrolet Impala, Monte Carlo; Pontiac Grand Prix; or Buick Regal model vehicle, equipped with a 3.4L or 3.8L V6 engine, within 10 years of the date your vehicle was originally placed in service or 120,000 miles (190,000 km), whichever occurs first, the condition will be repaired for you at no charge .

What You Should Do
Repairs and adjustments qualifying under this special coverage must be performed by a General Motors dealer. You may want to call the service department at your dealer to find out how long they will need to have your vehicle so that you may schedule the appointment at a time that is convenient for you. This will also allow your dealer to order parts if they are not already in stock. Keep this letter with your other important glove box literature for future reference.









Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials
1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

[wylie]

Hey bnaylor3400: Thanx for the fussy pic again I won't adjust my screen this time.
Just would like to clear up some confusion I have about the MAF sensor.
I haven't replaced mine yet because in the warmer weather the symptoms weren't as bad but now that the cold is here its worse.
Anyhow if I buy a new one and replace it I have to disconnect the battery. why?
And if I pull the old one and clean it I don't? plus the cleaner is an petroleum base product,thats OK?
.
.

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by wylie

Hey bnaylor3400: Thanx for the fussy pic again I won't adjust my screen this time.
Just would like to clear up some confusion I have about the MAF sensor.
I haven't replaced mine yet because in the warmer weather the symptoms weren't as bad but now that the cold is here its worse.
Anyhow if I buy a new one and replace it I have to disconnect the battery. why?
And if I pull the old one and clean it I don't? plus the cleaner is an petroleum base product,thats OK?
.
.

Hi Wylie. The battery does not have to be disconnected to replace a MAF sensor. Just undo the electrical connector plug before removing the MAF.

The cleaner should not be petro based. Diluted alcohol or electrical contact cleaner is best.

What problem are you having? Maybe we can help?









Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials
1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.