ride height question

[Ace$nyper]

Originally Posted by jackasssi

Right, I agree. I was just saying for sleeves GC's are decent with yellows. The best part about GC's is the Eibach springs can be custom rated per application, no generic spring rates.

Skunk2 used to offer it I had mine "B" rated little higher rates to deal with a B motor and hair tighter.

[BiGwiLLswiLLy]

yeah full coilovers are deffinatly best and with sleeves u should expect it to bounce...a lot...but as for inspection with coilovers the suspension is so stiff that its hard to bounce the car to check the struts..it prob wont bounce...so they wont notice they are lown unless they leak!

[BiGwiLLswiLLy]

i think u should lift the car up and tuck some 33 in tires under there an go off road....not that be a original hatchie...

[vladlos]

hahahahahahahahha 33 inch tires. damn. i failed inspection last march cus of blown shocks and htey were stock shocks and didnt leak and yea, i failed. and now that i lifted my car up about an inch and a half i still check my struts to see if they're still good and the coilovers are so stiff taht it just rebounds back up right away. oh well, it's a much better ride now though, instead of burying myself in little bumps, i just sail over them. hah

[turtlecrxsi]

Originally Posted by vladlos

hahahahahahahahha 33 inch tires. damn. i failed inspection last march cus of blown shocks and htey were stock shocks and didnt leak and yea, i failed. and now that i lifted my car up about an inch and a half i still check my struts to see if they're still good and the coilovers are so stiff taht it just rebounds back up right away. oh well, it's a much better ride now though, instead of burying myself in little bumps, i just sail over them. hah

Me too... and my struts are so beat. I used to off road rally my car and was pretty rough with it, now I baby it though...

[91CRXTC]

ok so how or why are sleeved coilovers more bouncy then true coilovers?

[turtlecrxsi]

Originally Posted by 91CRXTC

ok so how or why are sleeved coilovers more bouncy then true coilovers?

It has to do with how far the strut has to travel with the spring set up when the spring is not at the factory height. Most people don't buy a combo of springs and struts that are made specifically for the application they're using. Even with aftermarket struts, adjusting the height of the coilovers is never going to be perfect. But if you get true coilovers that are made to be adjusted, you get what you pay for...

[91CRXTC]

ok i understand that, i have eibach yellows springs with tokico adjustables(white) set on 4 and it feels ok to me, anyone know this setup to agree or disagree? If you disagree then suggest a better setup.

[turtlecrxsi]

Originally Posted by 91CRXTC

ok i understand that, i have eibach yellows springs with tokico adjustables(white) set on 4 and it feels ok to me, anyone know this setup to agree or disagree? If you disagree then suggest a better setup.

me jealous...

[BiGwiLLswiLLy]

it has to do with the shock travel....it was already discussed before if u do a search...it has pics that go along with it that help explain it a lot better..but basically they make shocks for lowered suspension diffrent then stock shocks they are smaller..

[vladlos]

yea, like the koni yellows. they are a shorter shock overall compared to the stock lenght shocks like illuminas, blues, and kyb agx's and gr2s and so on...

[BullShifter]

Originally Posted by 91CRXTC

ok so how or why are sleeved coilovers more bouncy then true coilovers?

Because they are usually low grade products with generic spring rates + plus the fact people use stock length struts(stock, KYB, Tokico) lowered TOO FAR. Too much lowering also affects the angles and joints of suspension parts in a bad way. Turtle is right you get what you pay for especially when it comes to springs and struts. If you spend the money for Ground Controls and Koni sports(yellow) it will have a good ride with outstanding handling. Think of it this way, the lower you go the more you need to spend. Lower the car only 3/4" and stock struts can be used, 1.75" or less aftermarket struts are recommended, 2.5" or more aftermarket struts or true coilovers are the only option. Struts are much more important than springs when considering a good ride, they stroke about 1700 time in 1 mile on smooth roads. I always recommend the best adjustable struts you can afford or Bilsteins for no external adjusting.

True coilovers are deigned and built to work together in all ranges of setting unlike Eibach springs and tokico struts for instance. A matched spring/strut is the best way to, even when using typical lowering springs and struts. H&R Cup kit and Konis that are valve match to certain brands of springs are some of the only option besides true coilovers.



Alignments are needed EVERY time you change the height of your suspension and corner weighting should be done at the same time.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-suspension5.htm

[TheSilentChamber]

Real men dont need struts or springs.

[BiGwiLLswiLLy]

thats the pic i was refering too...