First loss in tah bimmer

[TypeS]

Originally Posted by RedNeck383

I'd just like you to explain to me how it's possible... given the Vette was going flat out.

That you kept up being in a car that has less Horsepower and is less aerodynamic... and the fact that you say the Vette was in the inner turn lane... meaning he should of pulled away if you two were going the same speed cause he has the shorter distance.

And if you want to play power to weight ratios (which don't play much of a role when you're racing from a roll cause the weight is already moving)... you're still losing that battle cause you're heavier and a passenger.

Adding up all the factors, it seems that the Vette wasn't going full bore. More like toying.

What is their trap speed? 105? 107? Hell, I just saw one trapping 103 @ dragtimes.com

[TypeS]

And I'm in no way saying that an average 540i will beat an average corvette, but in this case, 6 speed vs auto, he could barely pull away.

It's not like I'm saying I beat it.

[-Josh-]

Did some calculations....

I have you at 5.5 car lengths back...real time...now i'll give you a car length or two since the environment wasn't factored in, so we'll say 4 lengths.

If you're wondering how. Final drive ratio, top speed, rolling speed, acceleration, and feet per second were all factored in. I really dont want to do that math again at the moment. I'm not saying you didn't race a C5, but my math has you farther back.

[-The Stig-]

13.22 / 109 mph

http://www.konshak.com/corvette/Corvette_2001_Specs.htm

[TypeS]

Which is fine because I really thought that he would pull a lot harder than me. But he didn't. And judging by the suprised look in his face after the race, he was trying.

Now factor in that he might have been out of powerband when he floored his auto and the fact that it was a street race (where there are more factors than 1/4 times), anything could have happened when both cars are only a few mph apart in trap speeds.

[TypeS]

Originally Posted by RedNeck383

13.22 / 109 mph

http://www.konshak.com/corvette/Corvette_2001_Specs.htm

But there are some drivers out there who trap 103 - 105 mph.

Did I in any post say that the average 540i is faster than the vette?

[-The Stig-]

Only a few mph off in the 1/4?

This guy posted a 14.2 @ 97.5mph
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-540i-Timeslip-5851.html


That's a pretty large gap in Trap speeds... that translates to numerous car lengths.

Now, I can understand him not being in the powerband when he got on it. Or if you had a slight jump on him and had a bit of momentum before he got on it. That's concievable.

[devster18]

Yeah, I dont see that being close, and corvettes have awesome auto trannys. If it was a manual I might understand... some people just can't race. Think you may have exagerated a bit? be honest.

[90redgt]

Originally Posted by TypeS

But there are some drivers out there who trap 103 - 105 mph.

Did I in any post say that the average 540i is faster than the vette?

I understand your argument Redneck, however consider two things.

1: Anything can happen on the street, to many variables to come to good and accurate answer for what happened.

2: driver ability, i don't know about you but the few vette owners i have come across could not drive very well. Considering the race was in a turn and not a flat straight away and the guy was 30-40 yrs. old. He was probably getting ready to have a heart attack going that fast so he let off. LOL got scared or something. So many things that could've happened.

[gti1689]

This guy posted a 14.2 @ 97.5mph

TypeS has been [email protected]. an auto convertible vette is a mid 13's car. honestly, the vette is faster, but accounting for driver hesitation, etc there really isn't much in it. I could see him keeping up. the 540's are v8's, so it's not like it would be totally outclassed by the vette on the highway.

[gti1689]

Yeah, I dont see that being close, and corvettes have awesome auto trannys. If it was a manual I might understand... some people just can't race. Think you may have exagerated a bit? be honest.

manuals are faster. it's really hard for someone who's used to driving one, at least somewhat well, to screw up shifting gears on the highway. requires very little skill in my opinion. i think type s would have lost by more if it was a stick.

[TypeS]

Originally Posted by 90redgt

I understand your argument Redneck, however consider two things.

1: Anything can happen on the street, to many variables to come to good and accurate answer for what happened.

2: driver ability, i don't know about you but the few vette owners i have come across could not drive very well. Considering the race was in a turn and not a flat straight away and the guy was 30-40 yrs. old. He was probably getting ready to have a heart attack going that fast so he let off. LOL got scared or something. So many things that could've happened.

Exactly my point. Noone is saying that the Vette should have won by a few more lengths, but everyone drives differently.

And yes, even a vette can be out of powerband. Maybe if he raced a stock Civic it wouldn't matter, but when you have two cars within 5 mph or less in trap speed difference, little factors will make a difference.

[street_racer_00]

I'm going to have to go against you Matt...those 540s especially with the 6 speed can flat out book...the new ones run mid 13 second 1/4 mile...plus, if it was in fact an automatic, I'd call this race pretty much a coin toss...I've seen an automatic C5 get on it, and they aren't world beaters...I believe you, type S.

[TypeS]

meh meh meh, haters.

How can anyone who knows anything about cars say that a 4 speed auto tranny car can't be out of powerband?

[TypeS]

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